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So an interesting conversation came up regarding the Dual-Cursed Oracle revelation misfortune. The ability text is:
"Misfortune (Ex): At 1st level, as an immediate action, you can force a creature within 30 feet to reroll any one d20 roll that it has just made before the results of the roll are revealed. The creature must take the result of the reroll, even if it’s worse than the original roll. Once a creature has suffered from your misfortune, it cannot be the target of this revelation again for 1 day."
The question is can you use this ability on a natural 1 or 20? I assumed that the text "before the results of the roll are revealed" implied after the roll but before the GM stated success or failure. So as long as you use the ability before the GM says you hit/miss it should work. Someone else pointed out that on 1 or 20 for an attack you don't need to wait for the GM because it is a guaranteed hit or miss and therefore you know the results of the roll. Is there any official ruling on this? If not, how have/would you rule it?


Kalindlara wrote:
You do not, unfortunately. They aren't added to the list of spells an oracle can choose from - only to your personal spell list (which the archetype negates).

I figured this was most likely the answer. Oh well, thanks for the clarification.


I wasn't trying to switch back and forth. I know one of my level one spells has to be Ill Omen. I'm asking if I have an option to choose lead blades as one of my other level one spells or if I can only choose from the non-mystery oracle spell list.


I play a dual-cursed metal oracle. The Dual-cursed archetype replaces the first 3 bonus mystery spells. Can I choose to take both the archetype and mystery spells? For example the DC archetype makes you take ill omen at level 2 but can I also take lead blades from the metal mystery (the spell I'd normally have to take at level 2)? Or am I only allowed to pick non-mystery spells from the oracle spell list?