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I saw that thread. Unfortunately my DM said 'THAT'S FOR SCIFI NOT FANTASY, HURRRR' so, yeah. No go. :(


Oh, wow, I'm gonna roll this up, too, see how it does.


Oh, man, thank you so much, you've really helped me decided on what I want, all of you! Cheers to a successful thread!


A very good point. But would the bonuses of flying not outweigh the usefulness of a grounded companion? I really have no idea the legitimacy of flying archery but it would keep a lot of things out of my way as well as help me getting where I should be, as well as spotting. I see pros and cons to both, and in my head, come out equal >.<


I've seen the Roc suggested for flying, some suggesting Death from Above with it as well as Far Shot for sniping from the clouds. Is that better than this infamous Wolf I keep hearing about? Apparently it has insane AC, is fantastic at flanking, and is able to trip.

EDIT: Reading the guide now, sspitfire1! I posted before refreshing, ha.


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Wish spell? Honestly, I've never come accross such a thing. How were you put into the cat's body and what happen to your original body. Can you even swap back?


So, I do find myself with another pressing matter when looking at the Ranger: My companion.

Originally I found the leopard to be the most attractive, was this a wise decision? Furthermore, I am not exactly sure how one levels an animal companion, nor what is imporant to give to them.


Ah, thank you for all the advice! I feel a lot better about my build now, was really unsure when I rolled him up. So, the Warrior Archer isn't where I should look to, got it! I suppose I could roll a Zen Archer and then just compare.


I'm wondering, if I ask my DM if this is okay, could you make one of these starting at level 8 with rolled stats of 14, 14, 14, 12 12, 10? I'm stuck doing archery, which I've no knowledge in, and this seems like a preeeetty legit build.


So, over the years I've played both 3.5 and Pathfinder rather extensively. However, our latest attempt has me feeling uneasy. Let me set it up:

We rolled for archetypes. I rolled ranged I went archery over caster.

We rolled for stats. My sheet isn't in front of me, but my rolls are 14, 14, 14, 12, 12, 10.

Starting level of 8.

Now, here is my dilemma. I've never started this high before, or have even reached this level before (seems most DMs where I'm from like starting at 1 and doing slow development) and it has me.... overwhelmed.

Nor have I ever done an archery build before. I went Half-Elf Ranger with the following stat distribution:

Str: 14
Dex: 18 (14 + 2 racial + 2 leveling)
Con: 12
Int: 10
Wis: 12
Cha: 14

I know, why put anything in Charisma? Well, I was told by a friend Arcane Archer was the way to go for DPR and crowd control, but after researching the topic, I've decided full Ranger beat it out in terms of usefulness.

But I've been given the option, using those same rolls, to rebuild him. So, I'd really like so help on not gimping myself. We will, more than likely, only make it to level 12. Knowing that, I'd like the ideal build for the levels 8-12, nothing further. Starting with 33k we can spend no more than a third our gold on a single item.

From my research, both Zen Archer and Fighter Archer look great, but based on our campaign rules as well as starting level and estimated final level reach, I'm not sure what the most ideal build would be.

We have a melee tanky Hound Master (custom made from a Cavalier, but ultimately ended up being pretty identical, so I've been told) and a Rogue with a focus on utility. Our fourth has yet to be found.

So, is anyone up for helping the new guy? As an added note, race can be changed (went Half-Elf for Arcane Archer) so do not feel obligated to use any particular race.

Thanks again, Paizo Community!!

EDIT: Boots of Speed are allowed, even though they're over by a grand.