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This exactly, is so confussing, I mean it is not hard to look at it, and take the most logical path from group playing session perspective, but you cant exactly pinpoint out specific rule clarification, how it works.

Afcourse, spaming minions, undead, magical or othervice brought in to the game can be stupid for game. But thats another topic.

I just found there are so many "best builds" for necromancer, using so many iffy things,

I just want to wrap head around this, so i understand the rules.

For instance this similar build i posted above: Jujuoracle 4 + arcaneclassX 3 + mystic theurge 10 + x, in so many cases counts controllable HD as separated pools for each caster, almost doubling it.

I am trying to form some data in exel, and draw some graphs, that would trully show necromantic way, as it is.

Sorry for digging this from the grave, but since we are talking about animating the dead...

I dont thik you should be abble to count 2 separated HD controll polls for each caster. I think you only take your highest caster level to determine maximum HD of undead you can controll per level.

See here:
https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?236610-3-5-Mystic-Theurge-and-An imate-Dead

Thank you for replie :)

Now i have new question...

So i found this build online (and put some on it), but I cant comperhand my head around its math:

Traits:
Magical knack
Signature spell (animate dead)
>>{Q1} to wich class/es we count this Caster level?

Lvl 1-4 oracle juju, we can controll 6hd per lvl. We will take 2 feats here, spell specialization and mages tatto. This should net us additional 3 caster levels for animate dead.>>{Q2} at lvl 20, where do we calculate this caster levels?

Lvl 5-7 wizzard, we can controll 4hd only per caster level

Lvl 8-15 mystic theurge, and at 15 we are taking spell perfection, now this shoul net us 6hd+4hd per MT level, and additional 3 caster levels.

Lvlv 16-20 agent of grave, progressing on oracle, for 5x 12hd.

Now I am not sure, where do we calculate in all those feats and bonuses, are you selecting every level where to apply them, can you use for more caster lvls?

Hey, I have been trough and trough searching posts, redit and guides, but I cant find some official declaration on this beseids theories.

So as pc goes in to prc agent of grave, it lose spell caster progresion, on the same time this statement "and an increased effective level of spellcasting" tells as you still use your caster level as full.

So here if you can officialy rule it out for me:
Cleric lvl 7, agent of grave lvl 5, how many HD of undead can he controll with animate dead (no feats or traits)

7x4hd + 5x8hd OR 7x4hd + 4x8hd