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Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Chumtooth hurls his harpoon at one of the remaining gargoyles.

Ranged Attack, Harpoon: 1d20 + 15 ⇒ (19) + 15 = 34

Damage: 1d8 + 8 ⇒ (4) + 8 = 12

Ranged Attack, 2nd Throw: 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (10) + 11 = 21

Damage: 1d8 + 8 ⇒ (1) + 8 = 9


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Chumtooth hurls his harpoon again.

Ranged Attack, Harpoon: 1d20 + 15 ⇒ (20) + 15 = 35

Confirm Critical Hit: 1d20 + 15 ⇒ (1) + 15 = 16

Damage: 1d8 + 8 ⇒ (8) + 8 = 16

He recalls the harpoon and hurls it again.

Second Throw: 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (13) + 11 = 24

Damage: 1d8 + 8 ⇒ (3) + 8 = 11


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Chumtooth launches his harpoon at the nearest ghoul.

Ranged Attack: 1d20 + 15 ⇒ (11) + 15 = 26

Damage: 1d8 + 8 ⇒ (7) + 8 = 15

He recalls the whale-spear, and hurls it again.

Ranaged Attack: 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (17) + 11 = 28

Damage: 1d8 + 8 ⇒ (5) + 8 = 13


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Chumtooth hurls his harpoon at the nearest ghoul.

Ranged Attack: 1d20 + 15 ⇒ (6) + 15 = 21

Damage: 1d8 + 8 ⇒ (8) + 8 = 16

Ranged Attack, second throw: 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (11) + 11 = 22

Damage: 1d8 + 8 ⇒ (4) + 8 = 12


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

"Let us continue to seek the Stone," Chumtooth says, moving into the room and northward. Seeing two paths, he says to the others, "Which way to you think is best?"


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

”It speaks?!” Chumtooth replies, surprised. ”It may leave, and not die, if it leaves its treasure, does not tell the one-eyed giants or their masters of our presence, and does not attack us again. If it does any of those things, it will die slowly and in agony. I will tear its living flesh from it in bloody chunks, and feast while it begs for death!”

Intimidate: 1d20 + 17 ⇒ (20) + 17 = 37


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Chumtooth hurls his harpoon again.

Harpoon: 1d20 + 15 ⇒ (20) + 15 = 35

Confirm Critical: 1d20 + 15 ⇒ (9) + 15 = 24

Critical Hit Damage: 2d8 + 16 + 8d6 ⇒ (2, 4) + 16 + (6, 3, 1, 1, 6, 2, 3, 5) = 49

Combat Maneuver, Grapple Attempt: 1d20 + 12 ⇒ (9) + 12 = 21


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Chumtooth hurls his harpoon again, hoping to have better success this time.

Harpoon, Ranged: 1d20 + 15 ⇒ (13) + 15 = 28

Damage: 1d8 + 8 ⇒ (2) + 8 = 10 plus 4d6 ⇒ (5, 4, 5, 1) = 15, if flat-footed or flanked

Harpoon, Second Throw: 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (13) + 11 = 24

Damage: 1d8 + 8 ⇒ (1) + 8 = 9 plus 4d6 ⇒ (2, 3, 5, 4) = 14, if flat-footed or flanked


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Chumtooth hurls his harpoon at the "Ball".

Ranged Attack, vs possibly flat-footed: 1d2 + 15 ⇒ (2) + 15 = 17

Damage: 1d8 + 8 ⇒ (6) + 8 = 14, plus Sneak Attack, if flat-footed applies Sneak Attack: 4d6 ⇒ (2, 3, 3, 2) = 10

Second Throw, Ranged Attack: 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (6) + 11 = 17

Damage: 1d8 + 8 ⇒ (5) + 8 = 13, plus Sneak Attack, if flat-footed applies Sneak Attack: 4d6 ⇒ (2, 1, 2, 3) = 8


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Go figure. Chumtooth is a rogue, but has no ranks in disable device and owns no lock picks. The rogue class was just to reflect his island born stealthy hunting and climbing abilities.


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Chumtooth moves into the room, and looks around for trouble, as well.

Perception: 1d20 + 14 ⇒ (5) + 14 = 19


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

"If the stars can lead us to the Stone, then yes, speak to them," Chumtooth replies.


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

"If we follow the strongest magic, we will find the Stone, yes?" Chumtooth asks the group.


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

As his wounds close, and bruises fade, Chumtooth throws his head back and makes a strange growling noise (perhaps a sigh of relief). He looks down at the giant and smiles. "You were strong, and almost killed me, but I was stronger. Your chief's head will adorn my belt!"

He turns to Riori, and gives her a nod of his head, and a grunt of respectful acknowledgement, which is about as much of a heartfelt thanks that anyone has received from the Kuru.

"Take their coins, and let us move on."


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Chumtooth roars in fury as the giant wounds him. He lunges again with his harpoon, and lashes out with his sharpened teeth.

Attack with Harpoon, flanking: 1d20 + 15 ⇒ (8) + 15 = 23

Damage: 1d8 + 8 + 4d6 ⇒ (8) + 8 + (6, 1, 2, 5) = 30

Bite Attack, flanking: 1d20 + 12 ⇒ (12) + 12 = 24

Damage: 1d8 + 6 + 4d6 ⇒ (4) + 6 + (4, 1, 5, 4) = 24


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Melee Attack with Harpoon: 1d20 + 15 ⇒ (16) + 15 = 31

Damage: 1d8 + 8 ⇒ (1) + 8 = 9

Natural Attack, Bite: 1d20 + 12 ⇒ (5) + 12 = 17

Damage: 1d8 + 6 ⇒ (1) + 6 = 7


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Chumtooth hurls his harpoon again.

Ranged Attack on flat-footed target: 1d20 + 15 ⇒ (6) + 15 = 21

Damage: 1d8 + 8 + 2d6 ⇒ (6) + 8 + (2, 4) = 20

Ranged Attack, Second Throw: 1d20 + 10 ⇒ (10) + 10 = 20

Damage: 1d8 + 8 + 2d6 ⇒ (8) + 8 + (3, 1) = 20


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Chumtooth takes advantage of their distraction to hurl his harpoon at the nearest cyclops.

Ranged, Returning Harpoon, Sneak Attack: 1d20 + 15 ⇒ (17) + 15 = 32

Damage: 1d8 + 8 + 2d6 ⇒ (8) + 8 + (1, 2) = 19

Second Throw: 1d20 + 11 ⇒ (1) + 11 = 12


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

"You can understand them," Chumtooth says to Dantes. "Can you speak their tongue? Can you sound like one of them?"

(If Dantes can Bluff as one of them, and get them to open the door, we can ambush them.)


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Chumtooth nods in agreement, clearly thrilled at the idea of hunting the one-eyed giants. He moves to keep pace with Faengrim.

Stealth: 1d20 + 16 ⇒ (4) + 16 = 20

Perception: 1d20 + 13 ⇒ (10) + 13 = 23


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Chumtooth catches the heart, and bites into it, relishing the taste of raw flesh and blood.

"One-eyed giants, like the others. I will find their chief and claim his head for my belt," Chumtooth remarks.


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Chumtooth moves forward into the ruins to close with the cyclops.

(Double Move)


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Chumtooth launches his harpoon at the nearest cyclops.

Ranged Attack with seeking, returning harpoon: 1d20 + 15 ⇒ (16) + 15 = 31

Damage: 1d8 + 8 ⇒ (2) + 8 = 10

He recalls the spear, and hurls it again.

2nd Attack: 1d20 + 10 ⇒ (16) + 10 = 26

Damage: 1d8 + 8 ⇒ (8) + 8 = 16


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Chumtooth uses his teeth to begin gnawing through the net.

Bite Damage to Net: 1d8 + 6 ⇒ (3) + 6 = 9


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Best wishes for your friend’s speedy recovery, WhtKnt.


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Chumtooth looks to his companions, nods, and begins to climb the stairs. He looks carefully for any indication of trip wires or other traps, as well as for signs of an ambush.

Perception: 1d20 + 13 ⇒ (5) + 13 = 18


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

"Let us follow this trail of words, and see where it leads," Chumtooth says.


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Chumtooth nods at Riori's suggestion. "Yes. See what you can see. This tower will need to be rebuilt, once we have subdued the island."

To the others he says, "Let us see what the one-eyed giants were carrying."


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Chumtooth hurls his harpoon at the remaining cylops.

Ranged Attack: 1d20 + 15 + 2 ⇒ (10) + 15 + 2 = 27

Damage: 1d8 + 8 + 2 + 4d6 ⇒ (1) + 8 + 2 + (5, 2, 2, 4) = 24

As the harpoon returns, he throws it again.

Ranged Attack: 1d20 + 10 + 2 ⇒ (19) + 10 + 2 = 31

Damage: 1d8 + 8 + 2 + 4d6 ⇒ (3) + 8 + 2 + (2, 1, 1, 2) = 19


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Chumtooth takes a few steps closer (move 10' forward), targeting the nearest cyclops with a violent throw of his harpoon.

Ranged Attack, Harpoon: 1d20 + 15 ⇒ (19) + 15 = 34

Damage: 1d8 + 8 ⇒ (8) + 8 = 16 (plus Sneak Attack: 4d6 ⇒ (1, 1, 5, 1) = 8, if flat-footed.)

As the harpoon returns, he hurls it again.

Second Throw: 1d20 + 10 ⇒ (10) + 10 = 20

Damage: 1d8 + 8 ⇒ (4) + 8 = 12 (plus Sneak Attack: 4d6 ⇒ (1, 1, 2, 4) = 8, if flat-footed.)


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

"We were told as much," nodding in acknowledgement of Riori's assumption regarding the Stone.

"The island is ours. Anything on it is ours. If there is plunder to take, we will take it," he adds, nodding to Rogar.


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Where we are now, and what we are doing:

We won the annual Captain's Regatta, a race amongst pirate crew's around and through the edge of the Eye of Abednego. The prize for winning was the deed to this island, known as the Eye of Empty Eyes.

We have just landed within the past few days, and have started exploring.

There is a run-down fort near the cove where we landed, and it turned out to be occupied by a crazy man and some unfriendly spirits.

The crazy man told us about a magical Stone that can be used to get rid of the spirits that is somewhere in the interior of the island.

The PCs went exploring, and got into fights with some harpies and some dinosaurs. After that second fight, it was clear some back-up was needed.

We really don't know much about the ruins we just found, other than a likely place to find the Magic Stone.

Hope that helps!


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Chumooth addresses the newly promoted members of the crew, Riori and Rogar.

"Speak if you have thoughts about anything you see. You do not need to ask permission. We have already seen battle twice since setting foot on this island. You have been chosen for your skills. Use them to find the Stone and to ensure we all return with it alive."


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

If you don't count the potions you gifted us, I am right about wealth per level for 10 (62,030 in magic items). If you do count the potions, I am at 65,030.

In other words, I don't need adjusting, except downward, if you want me to drop something to hit the mark.


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Chumtooth nods in agreement. "We need more than us three. When we return, we will choose two from the crew to come with us. The rest will enjoy the roast meat from the beasts."


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

The dwarf surgeon is my favorite character concept of them all, and the one I see most fitting for the current group.

The player Deathquaker has been a mainstay of the boards for a long time, though, and her character is a solid choice as well.

They would be my 1st and 2nd choices.


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Rogar looks like a really good fit with our group. Granted, only a couple of people have replied so far, but he looks like the kind of character who would be on our crew.

Riori is a great character concept/build, but I'm trying to figure out why should would travel with us. We're a little too morally gray compared to her.


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

"Statues must be carved. If some people do not live that way, some people once did," Chumtooth says. "People who might possess the Stone the spirit wants."


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Fort Save, DC 15: 1d20 + 10 ⇒ (9) + 10 = 19

Chumtooth takes a look at the immense staircase, grunts in acknowledgment, and begins climbing.


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

After allowing for everyone to catch their breath, Chumtooth says, "Let us go to the great stairs, and see where they lead."


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Potion of Cure Serious Wounds: 3d8 + 5 ⇒ (7, 8, 6) + 5 = 26

Potion of Cure Serious Wounds: 3d8 + 5 ⇒ (5, 6, 3) + 5 = 19


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

We don't have a cleric, and Faengrim's pretty banged up.

Anyone have any healing potions?


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Chumtooth give an approving nod to Faengrim's slaying of the last beast.

He then moves over to the first beast, draws his kukri, and proceeds to remove the creature's heart.

Holding it in his hands, he take a bite of the raw flesh, relishing the taste of the animal's heart's blood.


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Chumtooth continues to circle and strike with short throws of his harpoon.

Returning harpoon, flanking: 1d20 + 15 + 2 ⇒ (7) + 15 + 2 = 24

Damage: 1d8 + 8 + 4d6 ⇒ (3) + 8 + (3, 4, 2, 5) = 25

Second throw: 1d20 + 10 + 2 ⇒ (6) + 10 + 2 = 18

(Pretty sure that second one misses.)


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Chumtooth hurls his harpoon again, and again.

Returning Harpoon, flanking: 1d20 + 15 + 2 ⇒ (9) + 15 + 2 = 26

Damage: 1d8 + 8 + 4d6 ⇒ (8) + 8 + (2, 4, 5, 5) = 32

Second Throw: 1d20 + 10 + 2 ⇒ (3) + 10 + 2 = 15


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Once Faengrim engages the beast, Chumtooth moves to the other side of it, and hurls his harpoon.

Returning Harpoon, flanking: 1d20 + 15 + 2 ⇒ (2) + 15 + 2 = 19

Second Throw, flanking: 1d20 + 10 + 2 ⇒ (1) + 10 + 2 = 13


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Chumtooth moves around behind the beast attacking Faengrim, and hurls his harpoon at close range.

Returning Harpoon, flanking: 1d20 + 15 + 2 ⇒ (7) + 15 + 2 = 24

Damage, flanking: 1d8 + 8 + 4d6 ⇒ (6) + 8 + (2, 2, 6, 1) = 25

Second Throw, flanking: 1d20 + 10 + 2 ⇒ (15) + 10 + 2 = 27

Damage, flanking: 1d8 + 8 + 4d6 ⇒ (3) + 8 + (6, 4, 3, 4) = 28


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

This fights going to end badly, unless we come up with a strategy.

The dinos ACs are too high, and they have too many hit points for us to effectively fight our way out of this.

GM WhtKnt: Are you okay with us strategizing out of character here, or do you want us to do so only in game?

I'm fine with either, but I wanted to make sure I wasn't overstepping.


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

If you need a few days to get into the right headspace to continue, I understand.


Male Kuru Ftr 5 / Rg 5 (pirate) l AC 19 T 14 FF 16 l HP 60/111 l F +10 R +10 W +5/+7* l Init +3 l Perc +14 (+13*)

Chumtooth hurls his harpoon, catches it on the return, and hurls it again.

First throw: 1d20 + 15 ⇒ (10) + 15 = 25

Damage: 1d8 + 8 ⇒ (3) + 8 = 11

Second Throw: 1d20 + 10 ⇒ (8) + 10 = 18

Damage: 1d8 + 8 ⇒ (5) + 8 = 13

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