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In 10 years, longer if you count Shackled City, despite multiple attempts I have never played an AP from beginning to end. I was in a group that managed to get to the end of book 3 of Hell's Vengeance. Another group needed a player to fill in after some losses, so I experienced the last book of Rise of the Runelords. I'm not really going anywhere with this, just getting that familiar feeling after the third week of the latest attempt to play Rise not meeting up. Just had to vent.


My party is in need of a slick ride, and I thought of the Golden Carriage. Our travels aren't taking us near Galt though, so I reckon we'd make a knock-off. However I was double checking the price and I don't understand how they came up with the market value of 114,000 GP.

The construction requirements are listed as Craft Wondrous Item, phantom steed, and secure shelter. This is listed as coming in at 57000 GP. From the description of item's abilities it seems to have both phantom steed (at caster level 12) and secure shelter on a continuous basis.

Continuous spell effects are priced in Core at Spell Level x Caster Level x 2000. For a CL 12 Phantom Steed that's 96000 GP and for the CL 7 Secure Shelter 56000. That'd be 152000 GP right there, but there's more!

When an item has multiple effects, you're supposed to multiply the lower effect's cost by 1.5. That'd make the Secure Shelter 84000. Now we're at 180000 GP. But maybe there's even more than that?

Table 15-29 says if the item has no space limitation, you're to double the whole cost. Now I would imagine that's meant for items carried by a character that don't take up a slot, such as an Ioun Stone or Stone of Good Luck. But maybe it just applies to any wondrous item that doesn't take up a slot. In that case, we're now looking at 360000 GP!

Then there's the part where you're getting 4 horses even though the spell used is Phantom Steed and not the communal version. That's really generous for a non-artifact! Am I reading the item's description incorrectly? Are these seemingly continuous effects actually some other category of effect? Please help me figure this out!