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Hi there,

I am currently discussing with my GM the wording of these skills, where it states

"This counts as two attacks when calculating your multiple attack penalty."

My GM is saying that if I use one of those attacks on my first attack, they get a -5 penalty, because they count as attack 1 and attack 2 as per the wording.

My interpretation is that there is no penalty roll when I use them, but if I decide to attack afterwards, the penalty is a -10, since that would be a technical 3rd attack.

Can someone let me know which interpretation is correct?

Thanks