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Hey guys, I am a bit confused about the actual points of panache a character has.
I am aware that cha can gain/ replenish the panache points equal to the CHA modifier, BUT how many maximum panache points can he have (at 1.st lvl per say)?????????????

"At the start of each day, a swashbuckler gains a number of panache points equal to her Charisma modifier (minimum 1). Her panache goes up or down throughout the day, but usually cannot go higher than her Charisma modifier (minimum 1), though feats and magic items can affect this maximum. "


Callarek wrote:

1) As mentioned Gang Up won't work to grant a ranged attacker flanking, so, no, it doesn't help a ranged attack get his sneak attack in. See the pointer earlier in the thread to the FAQ entry that explicitly disallows Gang Up from working for ranged attackers.

2) Spiritual Weapon's write-up explicitly says it does not flank nor provide a flanking bonus to any ally, so it wouldn't count for the purpoises of Gang Up

3) With the proper feat tree (Snap Shot and its children, a ranged attacker can help provide a different character with Gang Up benefits, since Snap Shot allows a ranged character to have a threatened area. Improved Snap Shot is where that really comes into its own, though, when the threatened area enlarges to 15'.

4) Since whips are explicitly disallowed from taking AoOs, unless the wielder has Improved Whip Mastery, he could not get the benefit of Outflank without the appropriate feat tree, and standing close enough to threaten his opponent (for a medium creature with a normal whip with the feats, that is a 10' range.)

Oh, ok. Thanks alot :)


Cheapy wrote:
But note that this will NOT give you sneak attacks at range, if that's your goal.

I wasn't rly going for that but isn't it rly the up side of this feat anyway? To get range sneak att?

Grick wrote:

Threatened Squares: "You threaten all squares into which you can make a melee attack, even when it is not your turn. Generally, that means everything in all squares adjacent to your space (including diagonally)."

So if a goblin is standing in a square where two of your allies can attack it, then you are considered flanking. This grants you a +2 bonus on melee attack rolls against that creature, and can grant your melee attack sneak attack dice if you have that ability.

Bad diagram:

[Goblin] [Ally2]
[Ally1] [You]

All three of you are adjacent to the goblin, but none of you are in flanking position. With Gang Up, you would be considered in flanking position, because two of your allies threaten the goblin.

Tnx, that's what I thought. What about my allys spiritual wapon? As one of the things that's threating my oppontnt. Does it cound as my ally? It's is his extention :P


Can somebody pls explain the meaning of threatening in: You are considered to be flanking an opponent if at least two of your allies are threatening that opponent, regardless of your actual positioning.
Does this mean that when my allies are possitioned so that the opponent is in their threatening square and not directly attacing the opponent that I am flanking that opponent with gang up????


Can somebody pls explain the meaning of threatening in: You are considered to be flanking an opponent if at least two of your allies are threatening that opponent, regardless of your actual positioning.
Does this mean that when my allies are possitioned so that the opponent is in their threatening square and not directly attacing the opponent that I am flanking that opponent with gang up????