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sorry for the double post, but I'm a bit high and drunk right now. But skipping out to play the special to play with a GM you prefer is rude man. It's not like the GM you were assigned to hadn't traveled 1500 miles and spent the money time and effort to run this game for you and your buddies. In the future be more considerate please.

BILLY, YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. QUIT LYING TO THESE POOR PEOPLE. THEY WILL BELIEVE YOU. GO BACK TO DANCING WITH YOURSELF. IT WILL HELP YOU FLY. I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE BATMAN'S CAPE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG1NrQYXjLU

I tried to derail it already by going on a tangent by summoning a demon lord... or an eidolon, or something.

I suppose I could always email Billy Idol or Baba Yaga if you guys really want a Peacock thread derailed again...

Sorry all, I would have posted earlier but Steve Stevens and I were busy getting hammered! I don't really remember everything that went down, but I woke up and my leg was all trashed and I was on the Arsenio Hall show. I see that Pageant of the Peacock is under discussion again, all I have to say is that the ability to use bluff for intelligence based skill is way different then using perform dance to use symphony of the Elysian heart and everyone around you has freedom of movement, it's crazy overpowered for a "magical" world where everything should make sense.

Billy Idol wrote:

blackbloodtroll wrote:

Billy Idol wrote:

but it's an overpowered INT CHECK....not that gamebreaking. So I'll go back to being a b%!%*in' 80's rock star and let you guys figure out the smart stuff.

Why did you make out with my girlfriend, and give her your cold?

Was she the fat one or the bucktooth one? Either way it was awesome!

The Filipino one that looked underage.

That must have been when I was in Bangkok. All I remember is that I got deported from the country strapped to a gurney. Best trip ever!

The demands of Kurguss would normally force Billy Idol to defeat me in a feat of strength before I believed the insane echoing of a crone's voice, but Billy Idol is so handsome, I couldn't help but see the truth in those words.

After playing at this table, I will not be swayed by wakedown's use of logic.

Raccoons, that is all.

Billy Idol wrote:

but it's an overpowered INT CHECK....not that gamebreaking. So I'll go back to being a b%!%*in' 80's rock star and let you guys figure out the smart stuff.

Why did you make out with my girlfriend, and give her your cold?

Was she the fat one or the bucktooth one? Either way it was awesome!

but it's an overpowered INT CHECK....not that gamebreaking. So I'll go back to being a b@#+#in' 80's rock star and let you guys figure out the smart stuff.

I think the designer's intent is pretty clear with not just the name of the masterpiece, but the text, which I'll quote again.

Pageant of the Peacock wrote:

By gracefully weaving your body through subtle forms and postures you can convince others of your breeding, eloquence, and refinement. For the duration of the effect, you gain a +4 circumstance bonus on Bluff checks, and may attempt a Bluff check in place of an Intelligence check or Intelligence-based skill check.

I don't think you can choose to ignore that first sentence, just like you can't selectively ignore sentences elsewhere in the rules that preface the rule you happen to be interested in.

In the spirit of understanding this masterpiece, I've wrapped the fluff sentence around the crunch sentence to "bookend" it:

Pageant of the Peacock, Rephrased wrote:

By gracefully weaving your body through subtle forms and postures you ... gain a +4 circumstance bonus on Bluff checks, and may attempt a Bluff check in place of an Intelligence check or Intelligence-based skill check .. [for the purpose of convincing] others of your breeding, eloquence, and refinement.

To me, both forms read as a bard that is effectively bluffing their way through high society and intellectuals and getting away with it. They aren't suddenly remembering obscure tidbits of Thassilonian lore as if they just cast a dozen Legend Lore spells, just because they have a +15 Bluff and a good number of bardic performance rounds each day...

The end result of this masterpiece is "convincing others", and it's still pretty amazing and comparable to the other masterpieces for just the +4 Bluff and +4 Disguise bonuses. If it's being read as more than this, it essentially becomes a "must-have" for every single bard, and I don't think it's likely that was the intention.

Of course, whoever designed it can step in and school us. :)

This was a lot of words to read and I didn't quite understand them all...all I know is that I hear voices and then stuff comes out of my mouth, not that I remember them however, this ability, which is supernatural is a bit overpowered