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Pretty straightforward, I suppose. I'm having trouble finding the right class/archetype/feat combos, but I know what I want to do with my cleric levels.

I'm looking for this character to be optimized but I can't compromise my RP concept. So I basically just want to optimize the character as much as possible, without giving up the flavor.


By the way, what would be the lowest level my human could be to become a vampire? I'm not totally sure I understand the rules for CR and class levels.


Eacaraxe wrote:
BeeKeepers wrote:
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Honestly, the "automagically evil" aspect of the vampire template is stupid. Most GM's I personally know waive that requirement and shift especially in the case of a vampire PC.

Now, don't get me wrong. Vampires, as undead still are negative energy beings and the need to feed and such certainly play well and generally cause characters to invariably shift to evil...over time. You'll certainly have an evil aura being a negative energy being one way or another. But, poofing into existence evil doesn't play very well; after all, this isn't exactly Buffy the Vampire Slayer where vampires are essentially demons that retain memories and aspects of the dead's personality.

Likewise, vampire PC's ought to have the freedom to play whatever alignment they choose. It can be a nifty role-playing challenge and experience, especially if you're role-playing a fall or a desperate attempt to cling to the heroism and good of the character's former life.

Okay, you made me just seriously reconsider making a vampire. In fact, I'm gonna scurry off and do just that, and I'll probably quote you if my DM has any doubts.


Wewt, thanks for all the suggestions, folks! I probably won't be playing a vamp thanks to the "congratulations, you're evil now!" aspect of becoming one.

I'm planning on becoming a necromancy cleric and, now that I think about it, I could probably abuse my vampy charisma with channel energy. Hmmm.


Aaaand I didn't read the first post well enough. Great. [edited for stupidity]


And of course this isn't me trying to siphon inspiration from you all like a creativity-vampire. *cough* *cough*

I've only recently even tried to optimize my characters, so most of my former BSFs are... eheh, simple, to say the least. Nostalgia dictates that I say my favorite was my human barbarian - also my first character.


Yup, the title pretty much says it. I want to see what you guys can come up with for a character that will eventually become a vampire. I'm interested in what classes/races work well with a vampire.

Not many rules here, folks. Show a snapshot of your build (if you have one) at level 3, as that is the level I'm starting at in an upcoming game.

Have at it!