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Bearded_DM wrote:

Sebastian Hirsch wrote:

Saying "This concept is uncomfortable for me to be around," and setting a healthy boundary is entirely reasonable.

I am not quite to the point Sebastian is, but I have purposely avoided running or playing the Razmir Lodge scenario. I offered it in my region when it came out, and will offer it again if asked, but I personally have no desire to play or GM it...

And I 100% agree you shouldn't be expected to play with characters who make you uncomfortable, but also you can do so without being snarky about a character someone else is interested in.

As I said I can really see where Razmiran COULD be problematic in the hands of some people, but at the end of the day other than a few comments about Razmir or battle cries of that ilk I highly doubt throughout the course of normal Society play there would be time for rampant attempts to convert people or to deep dive into the philosophy thus its really no different than having any other character devoted to one of the many deities of Golarion.

You're free to play with or without whoever you like, but there's no need to make new players feel like outcasts because of a concept you aren't personally interested in.

At the end of the day, I like the aesthetic and concept behind the character, it's legal for play, and I think it will be fun. When on assignment for the Pathfinder Society we are first and foremost Pathfinders, so everything else takes a back seat during the timeframe of the game.

Simple conversations make things so much easier. If someone had a problem with the dogma of Razmir at the table and made that clear, I would be sure that it didn't come up during the session. It's really that simple. We can all get along and put aside differences for the betterment of the Realm.

Personally, I dislike Razmir and player characters that follow them, and I guess the same is true for my characters.. those who are religious likely will assume that the god and character are a fraud.

If I know that a particularly motivated character is played at a table, I will likely find fascinating opportunities to do something else... like cleaning my bathroom.

Apparently, there has been some plot development in a scenario, which I have not touched, personally, I am assuming the country is currently consumed from the inside by insidious undead, and I hope it is only a matter of time until an adventure ends with us sending an undead Razmir to whatever fate Pharasma has in store for them.

But that's just me, I am not really flaunting my own divine character's religion so the whole Razmir thing is rubbing me the wrong way in more ways than one.

I understand avoiding players who are acting in bad faith but avoiding people who play characters based on concepts you don't like doesn't seem kosher to me. You're free to play in any game you want or not, but If I don't like Lawful Good paladins it doesn't mean I'm going to ostracize their players because their character isn't what I like. At the end of the day it comes down to the behavior of the player and the character. The religion is most likely background or only brought up in specific RP situations in 90% of Organized play. I guess I just don't understand this way of thinking.

As long as you keep the number one rule for society play in mind you should be ok.

Oh the rule, don't be a jerk.

I get this 100%. The reason I asked the question was because I realize a Razmiran Priest could be very disruptive in the wrong hands. I've had to make that judgement call with characters presented at my own table and it often comes down to knowing what players are capable of Raping the character without letting it become a problem. I would love.to have some Razmiran RP, but I would definitely not let it come before the core tenants of PFS play. Thanks for the advice!

I can't offer any advice about the mechanics of how to build a Razmiran priest in 2E, or the availability of the relevant options in PFS. However, I do know that there is a Pathfinder lodge active in Razmir now, operated by an influential NPC priest who is trying to foster cooperation between his church and the Society. See the Exalted Lodge entry in the Pathfinder Society Guide, and scenario #1-18: Lodge of the Living God, for more details.

Based on my limited experiences encountering Razmiran priest PCs in PFS, playing one in 2E is probably going to draw just as many confused, suspicious, and/or exasperated reactions from other players as they did in 1E. But there seems to be better justification now for the two groups to cooperate--for as least as long as Narsen's little experiment is still active, anyway.

I am fine with the confusion and hesitation from in IC perspective. I think one of the great things about the world Paizo has built are the tensions and intricate politics of the world. I would certainly RP up the flavor of Razmiran but I wouldn't allow it to interfere with the objectives of the game, the society, or the players around me.

Greetings!

I have been a forever GM of a TTRPG group that has been running since Highschool (with some dropout and new additions) that have been on and off with Pathfinder 1st and 2nd edition.

I have the desire to play in some games every so often so I have been thinking of really investing time into Society play to get a break from GMing all the time. I have run a few PFS modules for my home group, but I will admit I am not super versed in Golarion lore.

My question boils down to how acceptable it would be to show up at a table RPing a Razmiran Priest and how you would mechanically do this in 2e as I haven't seen any specific backgrounds, feats, or archetypes leaning into that fantasy. Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

**Edit: I don't know how i missed the Ramiran Faithful background, but I saw it just after I posted this....its heating up!