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Welp its too late for that now ^^, Lyria and Tsuto indeed got another Tribe to join them, inparticiular because of some magic by Lyria and the head of Ripnugget,held up by Tsuto.
And yes TomParker im traking them.


Ripnugget is already dead, she is left with Tsuto,Lyria and her hounds.

I could imagine, she would send tsuto(and maybe Lyria, they don't like each other,but i can'T imagine Goblins obeying just Tsuto...) to recruit new Goblins, while her Yeth hounds from the capel would guard the stairwells.


Sorry this was a missunderstanding, after a lengthy Discussion they decided to break his legs, because they thought they did not had any other Options to restrain him. And they let the Barbar do it, exspecially because he has the most strength...You are righ tho I decided to rule it on the spot and let the barbar do his "damage roll", which was maybe wrong in hindsight(I did made it pretty clear what would happen to him, based on his rolls).

I like the idea of Father Zantus giving his advice plus mayber a sinspawn attacking out of the Catacombs, to wake them up a little.

I take away from this Thread, that
1) my players are not as slow as i thought
2) Some pretty neat Ideas what the PCs could run into during their hopefully last assault tomorrow
3) Nualina is not going to free Malfeshnekor, i took that wrongly from the AP book.
4) Some neat Ideas how to keep them on their toes.

Thanks a lot to anybody involved, its nice a comunity like this exists.

That said,any further advice is always greatly apreciated.


Thank you again

Latrecis you are absolutly right, from the info they got they don't see any kind of bigger Problem infront of them, except maybe another raid into sandpoint in a distant future(which seems pretty unlikly now that they killed most of the Goblin in Thistletop)
They probably did not even saw Ripnuggets assault and Orics/Bruthazamus attack as Traps but rather bad luck/ normal part of their(The Enemys,not the PCs) Day Routine. They think and thought in that situation, that these Enemys are like Dungeon creeps who idle around at a set Position all day,until heros arive to kill them.

Anyway i would like to give them this sense Urgency to keep them on their toes. Our next session is tommorw i hope i get an idea until then.


Thank you for all your good responses.

Firstly in regard to Oric, our party is a little unbalanced with a strong ass,two handed Axed wielding, half orc barbar, who got ~70-85 Percent of all Kills so far. The other players don't have a huge Problem with that,even tho they do maybe half his damage.
That dude nocked Barazahmus and Oric with two stikes each out,and while Barazhamus fainted, Oric begged for Mercy. They then used Barazahmus as a target dummy to test the "strange rune bolts(anti elvish) from Barazahmus.

Their Plan was to capture Oric, and indeed prevent fleeing by breaking one of his legs.The Problem was that the Barbar trashed both his legs with his axe( i let him role a "hit dice" where 1-5 would cut them off, and the higher he rolled the better he would do it, and a damage dice afterwards. He threw a 6 and a full damaga dice, which let to two open limb fractures.)This and their following Prcedure to get him out nearly killed him.

In regards to Nualia im a little bit devided, I like Latrecis Aproach, but the PCs already took a pretty long time to clean up the catacombs and glassworks and since the inital Assault on Sandpoint a lot fo time has passed.
How long should it take Nualia to free Malfsehnekor, since the start of the chapter, and if she gets him, what would her next Step be?
I think tracking down the PCs, that obliterated some of her allies would be just as rational as to head back to Magnimar.


Nearly first time DM here, ive got a pretty new group on my hand(we have started around a year ago)and i picked up RotRL during christmas as our first AP.

The PCs reached Thisteltop around two Sessions ago, and after getting split up and heavily damaged they set the labyrinth on fire and retreated for ~2 Days. After that they did a nightly attack over the burned down ground, reached the actual fortress and got nearly killed by some crits from the Goblin Dogs runnig around in the yard.
They thought it would be a good idea to run away and lick their wounds.

The following Day they attacked again,and promptly run into a trap set by Ripnuget and got nearly killed by him and his Guards. This time they continued and got stopped by Bruthazamus and Oric whom the both knocked out, but not without injures. They killed Bruthazamus and broke Orics legs, and carried him out of Thistletop to their camp.

Now my Problems are as followed.
1)They try to play it like an Computer Game, not expecting anything to change after they come back(even tho i stated this multiple times and they run into Ripnuggets Trap because of this

2)resulting out of this, they often don't see NPCs as living, inteligent beeings, expecially Enemys. Their Treatment of Oric nearly killed him.

These are both very generic, but any advice in this direction would be greatly apreciated.

More importantly is my question regarding the time. Since their arrival at Thisteltop nearly 4 Days passed and after the loss of Bruthazamus and Oric Nualia is not going to sit still.Pretty much all the Goblins in Thistletop are dead, but most of her followers are alive. I need an Idea what she and her companions would do ,she still has her hounds,Lyrie and Tsuto.

Thanks in advance

PS: Sorry for the horrible formating