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Zaister wrote:
Aren't lemures mindless?

Normally yes according to the bestiary. However it's not the point.


Sibelius Eos Owm wrote:

Does anybody else hear an echo?

It sounds like you're playing 1e, but it may be worth noting that Sarenrae is a goddess both of redemption and of smiting down evil. In 2e she has both aspects in her anathema (ie acts which the cleric must not do or lose their divine access). You must offer any repentant creature a chance and you must not fail to strike down evil.

Of course, this us one of those fiendishly complicated scenarios the likes of which discussion went round and around in the 2e forum just last week. The main complicating factor is whether a fiend, a being literally made of evil, is a creature that you can realistically redeem without extenuating circumstances.

I appreciate that. I must also add that this (at least on my part) was all character roleplaying. There was no irl dispute with my group.


I am playing an Emberkin Aasimar Cleric of Sarenrae. In my party there is a 1/2 Elf Archer, a fighter type, a Magus with a blackblade, a dwarf warrior and a tiefling summoner who summons demons to do his bidding. We are in the Shattered Star campaign and just encountered a Lemure devil that had been held prisoner by a group of nupperibo. We dispatched the nupperibo for which the Lemure oddly thank us for saving it and gave us a gem as a reward. My party seemed satisfied and started to walk away. I stopped them and said "That's it? We just leave this devil to roam around?" I then proceeded to attack it. Only the Magus and the Dwarf came to help. The Summoner was cheering on the Lemure and the archer acted like it was non of his business and the other fighter basically just sat there and contemplated his naval. The lemure fought back of course and was actually fairly tough...we are only level 3.
Half way through the fight the archer says "Looks like I'm going to have to save you" and starts attacking. we finally defeat the devil. I thank the two for helping me and berate the rest for there not having a team member's back.
The argument was something to the effect that as a cleric of Sarenrae I should have been willing to attempt to redeem the devil not attack it. AITAH?


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Marc Radle wrote:
Are Third Party products allowed or is this Paizo Core meterial only?

Our GM is using basically the Core Rules and Advanced Players Guide. But I would be curious to know what you have in mind.


Two Halflings cavaliers in the party with Outrider racial trait and the Teamwork feat Outflank. Order of the Dragon. At 4th level having a Cheetah mount.
Which for me poses a question. How can two characters on mounts with mounted combat and ride by attack gain combat advantage on a foe. Is it reasonable to suggest that if the two teammates are on opposite sides of the enemy and are within charging range and declare to hold action so they would go on the same initiative may be allowed combat advantage over the target? This is of course accepting the theory that as both riders reach melee range with the opponent he would be considered flanked.