I think that's a fair rule, StreamOfTheSky. I'll make my case to the GM and see what he says. Thanks everyone!
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Thanks for the feedback so far, everyone! I have another question, this one directed at tonyz and harmor - what about when a wizard summons monster? The wizard doesn't become visible when his creature successfully attacks or does something that requires an enemy to roll against a DC. Being able to sit invisible, summoning creatures to fight for you is a pretty powerful strategy - and I think if that's allowed, so should creating pits on a battlefield. Just playing devil's advocate so I have a solid feeling one way or the other...
I was wondering if anyone could shed some light on a question on invisibility. If an invisible wizard can cast a summon monster spell without becoming visible, can they use Create Pit without becoming visible? Rules state, "an invisible being can open doors, talk, eat, climb stairs, summon monsters and have them attack, cut the ropes holding a rope bridge while enemies are on the bridge, remotely trigger traps, open a portcullis to release attack dogs, and so forth. If the subject attacks directly, however, it immediately becomes visible along with all its gear."
Create Pit spell states, "You create a 10-foot-by-10-foot extra-dimensional hole with a depth of 10 feet per two caster levels (maximum 30 feet). You must create the pit on a horizontal surface of sufficient size. Since it extends into another dimension, the pit has no weight and does not otherwise displace the original underlying material. You can create the pit in the deck of a ship as easily as in a dungeon floor or the ground of a forest. Any creature standing in the area where you first conjured the pit must make a Reflex saving throw to avoid falling into it."
Summon Monster states: "This spell summons an extraplanar creature (typically an outsider, elemental, or magical beast native to another plane). It appears where you designate and acts immediately, on your turn. It attacks your opponents to the best of its ability."
I argue that since it's conjuring something it's a passive attack like summoning a monster and will not effect the invisibility, but I haven't found anything that specifically states it. Thoughts? Help? Thanks in advance! |