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wizard are not overpowered, they cast spell....that's the only thing they can do to save their life!! :-p
they are still fragile and spell dependent...
SoD spell are powerfull, but one good save and it's the wizard who lose!! And DC are not very high.
without magic item, a 20th level wizard casting a mid-level spell will have a spell DC of 12-13 and only 16-17 for a 9th level spell.
A strong save for a 20th level character is +12.

clerics are clearly overpowered!! more spell per day, more hp, better saves (I don't understand why they have two strong save??), better bab, knowledge of all the spell, casting in armor...

Full round casting time is a good idea...improving counterspell too.

please pardon my poor english, this is not my native tongue...


Thanks you for the answers...and for the welcome :-)


Excusez-moi pour mon anglais approximatif, ce n'est pas ma langue maternelle...
juste une petite question qui ma travaille : quand on gagne un niveau de jeteur de sort grace à une classe de prestige, gagne t'on aussi les pouvoirs d'ecole ou de domaine??
Si quelqu'un peut traduire correctement cette question s'il vous plait.
ça doit donner approximativement ça :

did you gain school/domain power when you gain a +1 arcane/divine level from a prestige class???


chouette, un autre français :-)

ça fais plaisir de lire un peu la langue de moliere sur ce site quand on est comme moi pas tres doué pour celle de shakespierre ;)

Un petit coucou de Toulouse!


Hogarth say:
I think his point may be that a level 2 cleric gets two level 1 spells and two spell-like abilities (from domains), whereas a level 2 wizard gets two level 1 spells and one spell-like ability (from specialization).

Thank you hogarth, that is my point :-)

divine magic is as resourcefull and powerfull as arcane magic.
cleric can cast the same number of spell than wizard do, so why did they have better hp, bab and save??


searing light, flamestrike, air walk, travel domain, trickery domain...

clerics CAN do what wizards do,
wizards cannot do what clerics do...


with the domain spells, they are still better spellcasters than wizard and the magic schools.

add the BAB, HP, two strong saves, knowledge of all the clerical spells and armored casting....pretty much unbalanced no??


Why cleric can cast more spell per day than wizard??
they already have better BAB and HD!!

Am I the only one thinking they are overpowered?