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Abraham spalding wrote:
Magic section same spell same effect rule.

I get that if you cast a spell say a divine fireball and arcane that they would be the same assuming same level of caster. The question is about the stacking or the hd of undead one can have....


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DM_Blake wrote:

I know of no FAQ, and the spell text is not specific, so this could be argued either way and it's really up to the GM to decide.

Consider this:

An 18th level cleric or an 18th level sorcerer could animate 72 HD worth of undead by casting the spell twice to get 36 HD each time. It would not be unfair for a party of adventurers attacking the lair of such an 18th level necromancer to have to face 72 HD of undead. In fact, it would be expected.

But a 9/9 sorcerer/cleric who is also 18th level would present a much weaker challenge if he could only animate 36 HD of undead. There would be no benefit in limiting him to a "common pool" of undead HD. Applying such limits would just make him weak.

That dual-class character is already limited enough by being stuck with 4th level sorcerer spells and 5th level cleric spells (instead of casting 9th level spells like other level 18 spellcasters could). Furthermore, if he's animating them during a battle, he can only animate 18 HD at a time because his caster level is only 9, not 18. So he's significantly weak as it is.

Therefore, in my opinion, letting him have 36 HD from his sorcerer animations and another 36 HD from his cleric animations is not game-breaking and should be allowed.

Right makes sense that they would be equal.

The issue arose as a mystic theurge is in the party which means that a 3 cleric/3wiz/10 mystic theurge could have 13 x 4 x2 = 102 hd whereas say a lvl 17 cleric could only have 17 x 4 = 68 hd . With magical knack that means even more....

Thoughts?


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Hi,

Do spells with the same name such as animate dead have a separate pool for undead hd that can created or a common pool?

For example, a could a sorcerer 9 / cleric 9 control 36 hd per class for a total of 72 hd or would the maximum 36 hd regardless as this is the same spell just using 2 diff sources of magic?

My group is very RaW oriented so any FAQ or page where this is found would be much appreciated.