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How was Karzoug built? I'm trying to break him down for study, and can't get his ability scores to add up.
His stats as presented are:
Str 24, Dex 24, Con 28, Int 36, Wis 15, Cha 22
Take away his Immortal (Ex) +3 to Int/Wis/Cha to make it
Str 24, Dex 24, Con 28, Int 33, Wis 12, Cha 19
Take away his Wish(es) of +5 Int and +4 to Everything Else:
Str 20, Dex 20, Con 24, Int 28, Wis 8, Cha 15
Take away his Crimson Sphere (+6 Int) and Onxy Rhomboid (+6 Con) Ioun Stones, and his Belt of Physical Might +6 (Str, Dex):
Str 14, Dex 14, Con 18, Int 22, Wis 8, Cha 15
All this (should) leave is the 5 points assigned as he reached Level 20, and the +2 assigned from being Human. However, no matter how I spin it, I can not get the Point Buy to level out to 25 and still get Karzoug the stats he has. The best I can do is start with Str 14, Dex 14, Con 17, Int 16, Wis 8, Cha 14 and apply Human +2 to Int, as well as 4 from Leveling, then +1 from Leveling to Con to get the aforementioned Str 14, Dex 14, Con 18, Int 22, Wis 8, Cha 15. This still leaves one with a 38 Point Buy, and the oddity of a Wizard starting with a 17 in Con and 16 in Int.
If I take away 5 from Con, this makes it level out. I decided to try this after noticing on his statblock that there is a SQ called "physical enhancement +5 Con". I presume this refers to the Trasmuter Wizard ability, "Physical Enhancement." This would indeed grant him a +5 Enhancement Bonus to Con, but that would be redundant with his three Onxy Rhomboid stones... which already grant a +6 enhancement bonus to Con. (Geez that paragraph felt redundant.)
Is this an oversight in Karzoug's statblock, or am I missing something else?
In the Errata thread, people came close, but made a big mistake: Karzoug isn't pureblood Azlanti, so he doesn't get the +2 to all ability scores. That kinda shoots their proposed build out of the sky; it also means that the statblock doesn't factor in Karzoug actively wielding his Talons of Leng (as they theorize)- that would require his Base Wisdom to be a 6, lower than it can possibly go!
James Jacobs
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Looking back at my original work files for Karzoug...
He starts with the following stats, purchased via a 25 point buy:
S 12 D 12 C 13 I 18 W 8 C 13
He actually is a pureblood Azlanti (see the 2nd line of his stats), so he gains a +2 to all 6 scores
S 14 D 14 C 15 I 20 W 10 C 15
Next up, his inherent mods—+5 Int and +4 to the rest
S 18 D 18 C 19 I 25 W 14 C 19
After that come the enhancement mods, +6 to everything but Wis and Cha.
S 24 D 24 C 25 I 31 W 14 C 19
His level bonuses are +3 Con and +2 Int
S 24 D 24 C 28 I 33 W 14 C 19
Add his bonuses to his mental stats from age (+3 Int, Wis, and Cha)
S 24 D 24 C 28 I 36 W 17 C 22
And finally, his talons of Leng reduce his Wisdom by 2, which then puts his stats as they appear in the book.
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Huh. I guess my impression of how the whole Pureblood Azlanti thing worked was wrong.
I thought only the top-of-the-food-chain caste were purebloods and everyone else (slaves) were just the standard humans, ala Sparta.
Now I'm realizing the whole "Azlanti but not pureblood" thing is a catch-all for people who were around after the original pureblood lines died out.
The reason I was skimming over that in his stats is I thought there were Azlanti humans, then there was just Azlanti period. Like an entirely separate Race category. Looking back that's not how the other Azlanti like Azaven and Athroxis are listed either. Hi-yo selective reading.
Leaving out a +2 To All Scores does, in fact, mess over one's attempts at getting someone there with a 25 point buy.
Thanks for the clarification.