Champion of the Kami V4.0


Homebrew and House Rules


Well after a period of pursuing other projects and lots of Real world work I have returned to the Champion of the Kami Class. My apologies for the delay.

I would love any critiques anyone would be willing to offer for this iteration as I feel it is much closer to finished.

I have the new version of The Champion of the Kami class Here

I have created this thread to allow for people to access the correct version of the champion of the kami as many people were attempting to access old version. I will stop posting in the other thread and it will hopefully die.

For everyone who has offered critique or advice in the other thread or privately I assure you I have not ignored anyone's input and it is appreciated.


Any ideas?


Fox Critique especially would be appreciated.


Steel is also a concern.


I also wonder about Butterfly with the Boon/Wash clean changes.


Just had some feedback on Bear. What does everyone think?


The same person who gave me the Bear feedback also gave me some Steel feedback. Does anyone else have an opinion?


Any thoughts are appreciated.


I'll take a look.


williamoak wrote:
I'll take a look.

My Thanks.


Anyone have any ideas?


Just had some Cat and butterfly Feedback. Thinking of buffing Cat, anyone have an opinion on this?


Humm, Cat might need some love, I think, more later.


Nice work. I have not check it completely, but one objection I have is the capstone. I find aweful (as many other forumers) to be forced to end your smite / wrath after a single hit, and also be forced to banish your enemy. These should be optional benefits, there are many times that you just want to hack the enemy and not banish him. At 20th lvl anyway the strongest outsiders are able to return by themselves.

Maybe having a capstone like the one of the empyreal knight paladin archetype would be a better deal.

Keep up the good work!


XMorsX wrote:

Nice work. I have not check it completely, but one objection I have is the capstone. I find aweful (as many other forumers) to be forced to end your smite / wrath after a single hit, and also be forced to banish your enemy. These should be optional benefits, there are many times that you just want to hack the enemy and not banish him. At 20th lvl anyway the strongest outsiders are able to return by themselves.

Maybe having a capstone like the one of the empyreal knight paladin archetype would be a better deal.

Keep up the good work!

I have been toying with the idea of rewriting the Aura's and Capstone, however I was not sure if it was absolutely necessary. With this input I may just do so, however I have already changed the capstone slightly. A paladin's smite ends even if the banishment is not successful whereupon a Champion's only ends when the banishment is successful. I do see your point about creatures returning however.

My thanks for the input!


Rewriting the capstone now, will post when done. My new idea has a bit of a twist! I hope you all will enjoy.


I have decided to create a separate capstone for each Kami. Please stay tuned for more info!


I have uploaded a new version to the link at the top. Any critiques are appreciated.


I am especially interested in feedback on the Eagle Kami as what I have received so far has been mixed.

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