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Hey,
I have run into an issue with Hero Lab and I saw it posted in a couple of places. Also, some people have said they have run into this interpretation at PFS games. So, here it is:
Rogues don't have access to all rogue talents.
Now, I know it says that rogues have modified talents in Unchained. I also know they had a list of unmodified ones. But I don't see anywhere that they don't have access to any other talent for the rest of time. Like, why would the Bomber talent not be available?
I don't get it. If it's true, I don't understand the reasoning. If it's not true, why are people interpreting the rule this way? I can't find an FAQ or any thread with a definitive answer. Does anyone know when an FAQ for Unchained is coming out?
The chapter containing the unchained classes has this preface:
Some feats, rage powers, rogue talents, and other rules might not work with the unchained classes, and such rules should be reviewed before being used with the new versions.
In other words, it's GM discretion as to whether any rogue talent published for the Rogue and not explicitly updated for the Unchained Rogue can still be used by the Unchained Rogue. PFS made a blanket ruling of "no", which is probably where Hero Lab is coming from.
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The chapter containing the unchained classes has this preface:
Some feats, rage powers, rogue talents, and other rules might not work with the unchained classes, and such rules should be reviewed before being used with the new versions.In other words, it's GM discretion as to whether any rogue talent published for the Rogue and not explicitly updated for the Unchained Rogue can still be used by the Unchained Rogue. PFS made a blanket ruling of "no", which is probably where Hero Lab is coming from.
Do you know where this blanket rule is?
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It's in the unchained rogue itself.
Unmodified Rogue Talents
The rogue talents in this chapter include replacements for all of those in the Core Rulebook, along with selected revised rogue talents from other sources. The following rogue talents can be used without modification.
If it isn't listed in the class, or on the list of Unmodified Rogue Talents in Unchained, then it cannot be used without modification.. aka GM Approval.
The question to ask is where is the rule that allows you to use other rogue talents not listed? For example, in AR the new talents in Ultimate Intrigue are specifically allowed for both rogues and unchained rogues.