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I'm prepping to run What the Helms Hide tonight, and something just occurred to me.
In What the Helms Hide, Helven's Decemvirate Helm is described as "a triple-flanded helm without eyeholes," and it can be used to channel negative energy.
In the two Passing the Torch scenarios, Vahlo's helm is described as "triple-spired," and based on the images that are available, it could very well be lacking eyeholes. It also channels negative energy.
Are these two the same helm? Where the Helms Hide takes place approximately 300 years ago, while Vahlo has been active as a member of the Decemvirate for the past 200 years, so there is no problem with both of them wearing the same helm at the same time.

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I believe they are meant to be the same helms. I think all the decemvirate helms are azlanti artifacts. I may have their origins wrong, but pretty sure they are “passed on” willingly or unwillingly to the next decemvirate member to take their place. Which is part of the mystery. We don’t know how many times they’ve changed members.

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I believe they are meant to be the same helms. I think all the decemvirate helms are azlanti artifacts. I may have their origins wrong, but pretty sure they are “passed on” willingly or unwillingly to the next decemvirate member to take their place. Which is part of the mystery. We don’t know how many times they’ve changed members.
This is all pretty much what I've been thinking.
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Yep, that's the one from Passing the Torch I'm now using in What the Helms Hide.
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You mean from Seeker of Secrets, back in 2009?
I'm pretty sure that's the source of the image.

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You mean from Seeker of Secrets, back in 2009?
I'm pretty sure that's the source of the image.
I didn't know that was the original source. I'm only familiar with it from the Passing the Torch series.