Circus Rules pdf

[Ruzza]

So for my players, they were interested in a "Circus Guide." Something that includes all the rules to the circus activities as well as the new archetypes and weapons. I went ahead and put that together for them (after covering up any spoilers on the sidebars) and gave that out.

It's also something that I imagine many home games would like, but I don't know about the legality of giving that out? This isn't anything that I've written and is a part of a product that Paizo sells. I just wanted to essentially put up a free pdf of the compiled circus rules. Is there a problem with this?

[Sara Marie]

For a project that would be free, you would need to review the Community Use Policy: https://paizo.com/community/communityuse and follow the guidelines there for using Paizo materials. .

[Ruzza]

Sara Marie wrote:

For a project that would be free, you would need to review the Community Use Policy: https://paizo.com/community/communityuse and follow the guidelines there for using Paizo materials. .

Thank you very much!

[Zapp]

Ruzza, please realize that Sara Marie's answer is the only possible: the boilerplate reply.

It does not necessarily mean "yes" to your specific question.

In fact, I personally believe the answer is "no", but I am not a lawyer, I don't represent Paizo, and you should probably not even be reading this :-)

After all, you are asking if you can reproduce much of the actual rules content of Chapter 5, "Life in the Circus", from the Show Must Go On product, and do so more or less in full - that is, complete with every rule you need to actually use those weapons, archetypes and to put on a circus show. The PDF you're thinking of would have little to no new content of your own making, no?

I browsed the community rules Sara Marie linked to, and I just want you to note they primarily don't discuss reproducing Paizo's rules. They discuss them assuming you want to use and reference them for your own content, which is not the same thing.

Furthermore, when it allows us to discuss Paizo's materials it uses the language "you may descriptively reference" which pretty much means the opposite of what you want, since "descriptively" means the opposite of "hard cold numbers".

Again, please understand I am not giving you an answer and I'm not telling you anything. Just a friendly uninformed opinion from a random internet user, that's all :)

That said, I myself extracted the pages for weapons, archetypes and circus rules as separate PDFs and handed those to my players. That does not mean I believe it would be cool to hand away Paizo's material for free to the general public. At the very least it's a case of "don't ask for permission beforehand, ask for forgiveness afterwards".

In fact, I believe the answer you're looking for is:

"If Paizo wanted everybody to gain free access to this material they would have made it available for free on the blog. As it is, they decided to print it in a commercial product. Any group interested in those weapons and archetypes and everyone interested in running a Pathfinder 2 circus are invited to purchase a copy of Paizo's adventure for money, even if they won't use the actual adventure"

Legally though, please consider that just a worthless guess.

Best Regards
Zapp

[Rysky]

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If Paizo wanted everybody to gain free access to this material

They do allow this, all the rules go up on the official PRD, Archives of Nethys.

[krobrina]

Rysky wrote:

Quote:

If Paizo wanted everybody to gain free access to this material

They do allow this, all the rules go up on the official PRD, Archives of Nethys.

"Free" as in zero money and "free" as in "without restriction" are quite different animals.

[Rysky]

That doesn't change what I said, or AoN's existence.

[krobrina]

Rysky wrote:

That doesn't change what I said, or AoN's existence.

Some of us don't consider AoN or OGL free as it's use is not without restriction.

The MIT license is freer as is most creative commons. Only public domain is truly free.

[Rysky]

Wat

[Ruzza]

Hey, just to excuse myself from whatever this is: I'm not going to be moving forward with this. It was a nice afternoon activity for me to play around with (as I am currently living in a seni-quarantined part of the world right now and have PLENTY of free time), but publishing material in any way shape or form isn't more forte.

So we can probably drop this.

[Virginia J.]

OP got their answer from Sara Marie, I'm going to close this thread. Nothing more needs to be added.