Polymorph 'stacking'.


Rules Questions


Creature has a long duration (24 hour) polymorph spell on them. An hour into that spell, they have a short duration (2 minutes) spell cast on them.

What happens when the short duration spell ends? Do they change back to their original, natural, form, or to the long duration polymorph form? The Polymorph rules do not state that it dismisses or ends the previous polymorph effect, just that the creature can choose which effect to take effect.


You can only be affected by one polymorph spell at a time. If a new polymorph spell is cast on you (or you activate a polymorph effect, such as wild shape), you can decide whether or not to allow it to affect you, taking the place of the old spell. In addition, other spells that change your size have no effect on you while you are under the effects of a polymorph spell.

If you let the new spell take the place of the old one, the old one is gone. That's what "take the place of" means.


SO strange - so a 4th level spell that is not dismissible (like Ignoble Form), can be ended early by a 1st level casting of Aspect of the Falcon, Face of the Devourer, or Aspect of the Nightingale.


If you let them overwrite, yes. The person having the spells cast on them gets to choose, unless its Baleful Polymorph or some other hostile Polymorph spell.


Then it makes more sense to just let the original spell be dismissed by the target. Silly PITA workarounds aren't good game design.


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The rule is not there as a "workaround" for non-dismissable polymorph spells. The rule is there to preserve sanity. I'm sorry the author of Ignoble Form didn't think to make it dismissable, but that's really not an issue with the general polymorph rules.


Nah, my point on the 'workaround' is that it sort of makes more sense if the non-chosen of the two would be suppressed, so when the short duration spell is gone, the spell that remains takes effect again. I certainly understand why only a single polymorph 'effect' can be active at a time, but it doesn't make sense that single casting of 1st level Aspect of the Nightengale can essentially dispel a permanent 8th level Polymorph any Object spell.


Meirril wrote:
If you let them overwrite, yes. The person having the spells cast on them gets to choose, unless its Baleful Polymorph or some other hostile Polymorph spell.

Interestingly, there is no caveat (I think?) preventing hostile polymorph spells from being overwritten in this fashion. Going by the text, baleful polymorph is easily "dispelled" by aspect of the falcon.


blahpers wrote:
Going by the text, baleful polymorph is easily "dispelled" by aspect of the falcon.

That is what

Baleful Pulymorph wrote:
Any polymorph effects on the target are automatically dispelled when a target fails to resist the effects of baleful polymorph, and as long as baleful polymorph remains in effect, the target cannot use other polymorph spells or effects to assume a new form."

This portion of baleful polymorph is for.

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