Tremendous strength


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Tremendous Strength: For Strength scores not shown on Table: Carrying Capacity, find the Strength score between 20 and 29 that has the same number in the "ones" digit as the creature's Strength score does and multiply the numbers in that row by 4 for every 10 points the creature's Strength is above the score for that row.

Do you guys interpret this as (4x4x4) or (4+4+4) as an example say I have a 50 strength would I multiply the amount by 12 (4+4+4) or 64 (4x4x4)?


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4x4x4.

This is consistent with how carrying capacity changes from Str 5 to Str 25 - x4x4, rather than x(4+4).


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Very interesting. T-lion will be glad to know that he can lift several black holes at once.


Heh. I was about to comment. My reading is the same as Matthew's.

To be fair, Vid, we were discussing a hypothetical Strength score of ~2,929... XD

I'm going to snip a bit of our conversation from before, just to show a few points of conversation:

(Clipped to relevant parts for the over-all discussion, not specific examples.)

-=========Took the below out of quote box, as it looked bad and confusing=========-

But here was my logic (and I'm ready to be told, "Tac, you're being dumb." That happens.):

what I think wrote:

If I get 39 Str, that multiplies by x4.

If I then get 49 Str, that multiplies by x4.
If I then get 59 Str, that multiplies by x4.

To me, that pattern looks like I'm going to go x4x4x4, or 4^3.

If I hear you, correctly you read that it's:

It seems you read wrote:

If I get 39 Str, that multiplies by x4.

If I get 49 Str, that multiplies by x4*2 = x8.
If I get 59 Str, that multiplies by x4*3 = x12.

That's what you're getting, right?

For clarity, it doesn't have to be 29; rather it can be any strength between 20 and 29 that increases by 10 that follows this pattern*. That's why I'm looking at the actual multiplier rather than the final number.

* Nevermind that this pattern doesn't hold up at lower numbers. It can seem pretty close from 10->20 (going from 33*4 is 132, while going from 133/4 -> 33.8), but that isn't entirely correct, and it entirely falls apart at numbers below that (as, say, comparing 11 STR and 1 STR; 3x4 = 12, while 38/3 -> 12+(2/3)... nope, not even close).

EDIT: ninja Vid edit!

Vidmaster7 wrote:

Edit: My initial impression is that you would figure out the modifier for having a 50 str for example so it would be x8 (4+4) but and I think your right now that I think about it. it would be a 16 (4x4) multiple

Right?

Yeah, I'm getting the latter, by my reading. I guess I can see the former (as it's much easier), but the latter seems to be what they're saying.

That said, I'm prepared to be wrong!


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I keep hearing the one punch man theme playing in my head.


Vid's eventual response (there's a lot of stuff there I'm chopping out, and I'm editing the format, slightly, for clarity):

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The Rules wrote:
Tremendous Strength: For Strength scores not shown on Table: Carrying Capacity, find the Strength score between 20 and 29 that has the same number in the "ones" digit as the creature's Strength score does and multiply the numbers in that row by 4 for every 10 points the creature's Strength is above the score for that row.
Vidmaster7 wrote:
hmm. I'm leaning towards the 4*2 4*3 4*4 route but i'm still not sure enough to say.


Vidmaster7 wrote:
I keep hearing the one punch man theme playing in my head.

Well, he does sound pretty mythic...

Irony!:
Though the dude in question would actually only have the punching-strength of a Str 29 guy. Oh, you wacky infinitely scaling thingies...

That said, as I noted in the other thread, if you go by the multiplication method...

Tacticslion wrote:

Hmmmm... suddenly this doesn't seem so impossible by rules, after all...

Although the creature's current strength is only 48, that's a pretty good starting base, especially since the origin was millions of foul creatures being pulled within...

... as in, it could have had what amounts to a temporary strength boost that enabled it to claw it's own way out.


While *I* totally agree with Matthew's interpretation, I'm always surprised when a rules debate is so one-sided (i.e. 2:1) interpretation and so short...


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To be honest, I don't see any other possibile interpretation.
There's also evidence from the table itself, except for really low scores.


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I have the spreadsheet formula that recreates the full table here.

For 2929 Str, you get a max of ~5.54E+177 lbs.

That is approx:
2.77E+174 Tons
1.27E+147 Solar Masses
9.04E+138 Galactic Center Black Hole of NGC 1097

/cevah


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This character needs to take dragon style + dragon ferocity

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