| bookrat |
The grammaton cryptic fires the disrupt pattern ability through their gun. Does this ability require the expenditure of a bullet?
If not, it seems a little too powerful. Touch AC attack that deals xd6+int+others that ignores SR and DR with no save, fired at range, with no resource expenditure? And it's an at-will ability? What's the downside?
Even the spellslinger has a limited number of spells to cast through the gun or requires a bullet to fire.
Am I wrong on this, or is this ability too powerful? If I'm wrong, then I'll be fine with leaving it as is, but I'd like some input from the community.
| Skylancer4 |
If you fire the gun without bullets are you making a ranged attack?
The grammaton is only able to use the disrupt pattern ability when making ranged attacks with a handgun.
That being said you do realize the base class doesn't have any such limit right? The only good thing about the archetype is that it allows you to bypass the 30' limit. You are still limited to using it once per round (barring other abilities). If you have a mash up of opponents, you'd have to switch types or deal significantly less damage.
| Skylancer4 |
I don't see any reason why you would need to expend a bullet when using disrupt pattern. However, if you lose your guns, no disrupt.
No it, isn't too powerful.
I was going to post that bullets wouldn't need to be used except, with firearms you can use the ability to hit things at a 800' range (advanced rifle 80' 10 increments). Even with early musket you get 250' which is significantly longer than the range of the ability. Granted it isn't at a touch AC past the first increment, but still. Making ranged attacks with a firearm requires an actual attack and that is what we have RAW. It is essentially a rider effect on the weapon attack as written now.
| bookrat |
Ah. I was missing some things. I missed that it requires a range attack with the gun, not just "firing through the gun" like a spell slinger. So it does require a bullet. That should also mean that it includes the gun's damage, right?
Would the disrupt pattern require it's own attack roll, or does it use the gun's attack roll?