Any official wording on the draconic bloodrager and dragon disciple?

[toxicpie]

More specifically, does the bloodrager's Draconic bloodline stack with dragon disciple levels for the purpose of the Blood of Dragons ability, as the sorcerer's do?

Err, hope I've worded that right.

[Caleb D'natin]

I would hope so. I have a 1st level bloodrager green dragon character right now that I want to PRC into dragon disciple.

[kestral287]

It does not. Bloodrager 5/Dragon Disciple 1 has a Bloodrager's Draconic bloodline at 5th level and a Sorcerer's Draconic bloodline powers at 1st level.

[Claxon]

No, it does not.

At least not at this time. It is most likely an oversight, and I think most GMs will allow it. But dragon disciple specifies sorcerer bloodlines only.

As a bloodrager, you are not a sorcerer and do not have the sorcerer draconic bloodline.

[Dafydd]

It is GM's choice atm. There is no word from god yet as to how that was supposed to interact.

[blackbloodtroll]

Maybe, something will come later?

[toxicpie]

Thanks, everyone. I think this needs an FAQ, is there anywhere we can post suggestions for the ACG FAQ? (Though I understand the devs are incredibly busy and don't have time to answer the barrage of demands :))

[blackbloodtroll]

They will not alter the Dragon Disciple.

Likely, there will be no extra wording for the Bloodrager either.

The best you can hope for, is a feat that allows this, like Scaled Disciple does for Kobold Oracles.

[Gisher]

Do Blood Arcanists with the Draconic Bloodline face the same problem with stacking levels for bloodline advancements?

[CalethosVB]

No, because the Arcanist actually gains Sorcerer Bloodline progression through the Blood archetype.

While the Bloodrager may have a class ability called "Bloodline", gain powers from that Bloodline, and each Bloodline has a name that is the same as those a Sorcerer would get, they aren't Sorcerer Bloodlines. They are Bloodrager Bloodlines. They don't stack with a Sorcerer's Bloodline if he multiclasses, though if he does multiclass into Sorcerer the Bloodlines must match. Just as a Sorcerer that multiclasses into Bloodrager wouldn't stack the Bloodlines.

This means that regardless, going into Dragon Disciple is a wash for a Bloodrager since they lose out on they Bloodline progression while starting from scratch on a separate one.

It could be house ruled that a Bloodrager with Draconic Bloodline could have that count for Dragon Disciple, but then you've just cut out every other Bloodline from Dragon Disciple.

[kestral287]

The Blood Arcanist says that he treats his Arcanist levels as Sorcerer levels for the purposes of his bloodline. The Disciple adds his levels of DD to his Sorcerer levels for the purposes of the Bloodline. So everything stacks up.

The Bloodrager's problem is that he doesn't get a Sorcerer bloodline in any way, but the Blood Arcanist explicitly does not have that issue.