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You understand that the hobgoblin is the offspring of the goblin and the hob (ancestor species to the elf). So we can stat the hob by knowing what the stats of the goblin(other parent) and hobgoblin(offspring) are.
Size: goblin is small, hobgoblin is medium(human sized), and hob is therefor large(ogre/troll country).
The problem is we dont seem to have a physical size for goblin and hobgoblin. The monster manuals are notorious for statting one but not the other. In the d&d rules cyclopedia the goblin is 3&1/2' - 4&1/2' tall and hobgoblins are the 'larger relative' of the goblin. If we are to know the hob we must know the hobgoblin.
You understand that the hobgoblin is the offspring of the goblin and the hob (ancestor species to the elf). So we can stat the hob by knowing what the stats of the goblin(other parent) and hobgoblin(offspring) are.
Size: goblin is small, hobgoblin is medium(human sized), and hob is therefor large(ogre/troll country).
The problem is we dont seem to have a physical size for goblin and hobgoblin. The monster manuals are notorious for statting one but not the other. In the d&d rules cyclopedia the goblin is 3&1/2' - 4&1/2' tall and hobgoblins are the 'larger relative' of the goblin. If we are to know the hob we must know the hobgoblin.
Advanced race guide:Goblin,Male:2'8 30 lb's Goblin,Female:2'6 25 lb's
Hobgoblin,Male:4'2 165 lb's Hobgoblin,Female:4 ft 145 lb'sI personally think that pathfinder has short races,But I may be wrong.
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You understand that the hobgoblin is the offspring of the goblin and the hob (ancestor species to the elf). So we can stat the hob by knowing what the stats of the goblin(other parent) and hobgoblin(offspring) are.
Size: goblin is small, hobgoblin is medium(human sized), and hob is therefor large(ogre/troll country).
The problem is we dont seem to have a physical size for goblin and hobgoblin. The monster manuals are notorious for statting one but not the other. In the d&d rules cyclopedia the goblin is 3&1/2' - 4&1/2' tall and hobgoblins are the 'larger relative' of the goblin. If we are to know the hob we must know the hobgoblin.
Advanced race guide:Goblin,Male:2'8 30 lb's Goblin,Female:2'6 25 lb's
Hobgoblin,Male:4'2 165 lb's Hobgoblin,Female:4 ft 145 lb'sI personally think that pathfinder has short races,But I may be wrong.
As the hobgoblin represents the average of two parents that would give pathfinder Hob, male: 5'8" 300lb; female: 5'6" 265lb
Thats rather heavy for the ancestor of elves...
Please Stat the hob fully if you dont mind the exercise. Remember hobgoblin is the average of two parents.
Also the hob have a curse. Their name comes from hule-bhe (forest+to burn) so they are kind of 'fire elves' or peri-api as the Indonesians called them. They burn with a sulphurous blue flame (fairy fire) that likely ignites dry plant matter.
Dont always work that way. The child of lion and tiger is always bigger or smaller than both of its parents, debending of wich of them is mother.
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Dont always work that way. The child of lion and tiger is always bigger or smaller than both of its parents, debending of wich of them is mother.
For the hobgoblin we assume average of both parent races. That gives us the hob. Its clean and easy.
Rules cyclopedia says hd+3 constitutes sizex4 but only in relation to the normal of the species. Its the normal hob that gets hd+3 so is the hob 4x the size of some obscure average?
Wher are you getting the idea that Hobgoblins in the Pathfinder setting are the children of a Goblin and a Hob? They aren't. The are completley seperate (though distantly related) races in Pathfinder.
If you are using a different rule setting to get this heritage, which setting are you using? Without knowing which setting, world, or rules you are basing your assumtions on, people answering your questions can't operate off the same ruleset, which means the questions you posit can not be definitively answered.
I don't use the Bestiary rules for hobgoblins. In my setting, they're about 6 to 6.5 feet tall.
I don't use the Bestiary rules for hobgoblins. In my setting, they're about 6 to 6.5 feet tall.
That makes sense
You understand that the hobgoblin is the offspring of the goblin and the hob (ancestor species to the elf). So we can stat the hob by knowing what the stats of the goblin(other parent) and hobgoblin(offspring) are.
Size: goblin is small, hobgoblin is medium(human sized), and hob is therefor large(ogre/troll country).
The problem is we dont seem to have a physical size for goblin and hobgoblin. The monster manuals are notorious for statting one but not the other. In the d&d rules cyclopedia the goblin is 3&1/2' - 4&1/2' tall and hobgoblins are the 'larger relative' of the goblin. If we are to know the hob we must know the hobgoblin.
Advanced race guide:Goblin,Male:2'8 30 lb's Goblin,Female:2'6 25 lb's
Hobgoblin,Male:4'2 165 lb's Hobgoblin,Female:4 ft 145 lb'sI personally think that pathfinder has short races,But I may be wrong.
You left out the dice rolls -- what you gave are the numbers that the dice rolls are added to.
Goblins add 2d4 inches to the base height and 1 lb. times that dice roll to the base weight in pounds.
Hobgoblins add 2d8 inches to the base height and 5 lbs. times that diee roll to the base weight in pounds.
So if we assume that a hobgoblin is the offspring of a Hob and a Goblin and extrapolate the stats of a Hob from there, we get the following:
Male: Height 5'8" + 4d8 (average height 7'2"), Weight 300 lbs. + (18 x 9 lbs.) = 462 lbs. on average.
Female: 2 inches shorter, so average height 7' even. Base weight is 265 lbs. with the same additions, so average weight is 427 lbs.
With these height figures, the Hob is actually at the tall end of size Medium.
Wow thanks I didn't know that