Sorcerer options

[Dargatan]

First, just want to say i have been reading posts and advice from this sight for a while now and finally decided to join :)

So i'm starting a new campaign tomorrow and i'm finishing up my sorcerer but there's a still a few decisions i'm having a tough time deciding on.

I want to mention that my DM has banned the use of the human sorcerer favoured class bonus and that we are not playing with "traits" (unless we take two as a feat). We are also starting the campaign at level 4.

What i've decided to do, is make an enchantment focused sorcerer.(He's a salesman, skills in bluff and diplomacy, and chaotic neutral to give an idea of the character). He's also Kitsune for the +DC to enchantment. I have gone with the Fey bloodline for the +2 DC in compulsion and because i find this works well with the idea of the Kistune race for "flavour". My first two feats i picked are "craft wondrous item" and Spell focus "enchantment"

I have 3 options as far as i can tell regarding my question of bloodlines

1. --> Just pick Fey Bloodline and get the appropriate feats that would help.

2. Either use 3 feats + a bonus feat or 4 feats to get the arcane bloodline abilities (especially for the +2 DC). The problem i have with this is I either get skill focus in a skill i'll never use (knowledge nature, we have a druid in the group anyway) or i use a non-bonus feat to get skill focus:knowledge arcana, followed by 2 OK feats. I just find it's a lot of feats to invest

3. I go cross bloodline Fey/Arcane, and don't use any feats, but at the cost of 9 spells, learning them all a level later and -2 Will (but I also get arcana which seems really nice with persistent spell)

So basically I'm just looking for input to decide which of those 3 routs to go.

All responses appreciated and thank you in advance :)

[Victor Zajic]

So from what you've posted of your GM's restrictions, it sounds like they are not wanting a super powergamed campaign. So my advice would just be to pick one bloodline and have fun with it, and don't worry about how to absolutely maximize your DCs, because you'll likely get some blowback from the GM going that route. Sorcerer's also tend to be feat starved.

Also, low level is not the time to get craft wonderous. There isn't a lot you can make with low caster leve/spellcraft checks, and you won't have the resouces to make anything.

I'd advise the Fey Foundling fey, if you want to be more feylike, or toughness, which is never a bad choice, or greater spell focus if you really want to pump your DCs.

[Dargatan]

Hmmmm, i might go with greater spell focus then which i also considered. A driving push for craft wondrous item was that I'd be allowed to start with a headband of +2 charisma for 2000gold, then still have 4000gold for other stuff instead of paying "market price" for the item. (I'm also starting with a wand of mage Armour since i don't want to waste a spell slot on it)

[Willow Feywind]

This is my fey blooded sorceress

[Dargatan]

The feat layout is actually very similar to what i was considering doing with my second idea (-necromancy stuff because our DM gave the impression that there's not going to be undead stuff... although that's still for now and i considered picking it up).

[Willow Feywind]

No undead well that's good to know. In that case switch out SF: Necro for Improved initiative, Have you considered crossblooded fey/infernal?

[Dargatan]

I actually did as i did like the extra charm spells, the additional spells are pretty great, and diplomacy as a class skill is also great, but it still has the cross-blood lose a lot of spells problem that i'm very hesitant about

[Dargatan]

Oh, also i should mention there's a paladin in the party which might make the whole "evil" thing a bit harder to deal with :P

[Willow Feywind]

You don't have to be evil to have the infernal bloodline. I wouldn't go around doing touch of corruption on people...Or maybe I would. Messing with paladins is fun 8>)

[Dargatan]

That i have to agree. On a similarly relevant note in a previous campaign i made a homebrew class that was kind of an anti magic class with a bunch of illusion defensive spells. She was a zealot that hated all magical things, (except her own because she was using it for "good"), which ended up getting her into a lot of fights. (one time i ended up dueling this one wizard and the rest of the party I was in basically just stood back and said "k, we're not part of this". I ended up killing her, the rest of the party wasn't pleased XD.

Also, back on track, if i did go cross bloodline, i still think i'd get more benefit out of the arcane one despite the not as useful class skill although flavourwise it would be a lot of fun :D. I don't suppose you have any experience on cross blood and if you can really feel the spell sacrifice if you're going that specialized?

[Katya "The Adultress" Kurylenko]

I have this character in an online game...but i started her at 7th.

IMO the arcane bloodline if not the best is certainly top 3, as for Xblood I've done a 1 level dip for a blaster and that has worked out excellently! the part about the 1 less spell does not bother me as much as the -2 will saves. Both can be fixed with a feat.

[Dargatan]

I actually hadn't even considered this, how exactly would a 1 level dip sorcerer cross blood class work if you're already a sorcerer class?

[Markavious The Green]

It was a 1 level dip for the Orc/Draconic bloodline arcana i.e +2 per dice of damage and then Admixture wizard the rest of the way.

[Dargatan]

Oh, i see, hmm that makes sense and i hadn't actually thought of doing that either