Prestige class like Mystic Theurge


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Sczarni

Is there any prestige class that gives a +1 to two spellcasting classes like the MT does? I have been looking through the various one on the web, but don't know if I missed something.

I know in 3.5 there was the Arcane Hierophant, but its easier if I go with official paizo material.

I know the argument for the Exalted PRC maybe doing it if you are already a MT, but I need to steer out of gray areas.

Thanks


Shfish wrote:

Is there any prestige class that gives a +1 to two spellcasting classes like the MT does? I have been looking through the various one on the web, but don't know if I missed something.

I know in 3.5 there was the Arcane Hierophant, but its easier if I go with official paizo material.

No there aren't any.

First of all, there are less prestige classes in Pathfinder RPG than there were in 3.5e. In my opinion that's a good thing.

The Mystic Theurge is the only prestige class that gives a +1 level of arcane and divine spellcasting. This is very unique to the Mystic Theurge. Why would you want other Prestige Classes to have the same niche?

Shfish wrote:


I know the argument for the Exalted PRC maybe doing it if you are already a MT, but I need to steer out of gray areas.

What do you mean?


Diminutive Titan wrote:


Shfish wrote:


I know the argument for the Exalted PRC maybe doing it if you are already a MT, but I need to steer out of gray areas.
What do you mean?

It's the Evangelist PRC, actually. From the 2nd through 10th level, the Evangelist advances all your aligned class's class features (except HD, BAB, Saves and Skill points, I think) by 1 level each time you level. So an Evangelist 5/Summoner 5 would have an Eidolon, spellcasting, and Summon Monster SLAs equivalent to a Summoner 9.

Take that feature and make your aligned class Mystic Theurge. Say you go early entry and become Cleric 1/Wizard 2/MT 7/Evangelist 10. With Mystic Theurge as your aligned class, what effective level would it be? Some people have argued that it would be 16, with the only advancement being in your Cleric and Wizard spellcasting levels. They use the Beyond 20th Level rules to support this.

Others disagree, holding that since prestige classes have a very specifically limited number of levels available, there is no way to advance beyond that cap. So your effective MT level is 10.

Unless there has been a ruling or FAQ in the last week, I think it's still the GM's call officially.

Sczarni

Akerlof wrote:
Diminutive Titan wrote:


Shfish wrote:


I know the argument for the Exalted PRC maybe doing it if you are already a MT, but I need to steer out of gray areas.
What do you mean?

It's the Evangelist PRC, actually. From the 2nd through 10th level, the Evangelist advances all your aligned class's class features (except HD, BAB, Saves and Skill points, I think) by 1 level each time you level. So an Evangelist 5/Summoner 5 would have an Eidolon, spellcasting, and Summon Monster SLAs equivalent to a Summoner 9.

Take that feature and make your aligned class Mystic Theurge. Say you go early entry and become Cleric 1/Wizard 2/MT 7/Evangelist 10. With Mystic Theurge as your aligned class, what effective level would it be? Some people have argued that it would be 16, with the only advancement being in your Cleric and Wizard spellcasting levels. They use the Beyond 20th Level rules to support this.

Others disagree, holding that since prestige classes have a very specifically limited number of levels available, there is no way to advance beyond that cap. So your effective MT level is 10.

Unless there has been a ruling or FAQ in the last week, I think it's still the GM's call officially.

Exactly. I am currently playing an early entry MT and was looking beyond as I am currently level 9...looking as to what I would need to do to continue that didn't require DM ruling.

Scarab Sages

The best Mystic Theurge IMO is a single classed Elven Aincent Lorekeeper Oracle. You have full spellcasting, full mystery benefits, and your choice of Wizard/Sorc spells as spells known. They are all one level higher which sucks, but they are basically perma-heightened as well, which is nice for save DCs.

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