Giving Credit for Adventure Paths - Full Campaign


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Scarab Sages 2/5

One of my players in an online game recently pointed out to me that, even when running an adventure path with non-PFS characters, my own few house rules and variants, etc., I can still give a chronicle sheet and credit to the players for them to apply to their PFS characters.

I was a bit unsure, but after reading the section in the PFS Guide, I'm pretty shocked. I just finished Jade Regent not too long ago, and have been running Carrion Crown and Shattered Star simultaneously. All of my players do PFS, and now I find out I can give them credit for those APs?

This is kind of a big deal, but I have a few questions:

1. When giving this credit, they need to pick a PFS character to apply it to first?
2. This character has to be in the level range mentioned in the credit?
3. If they don't have an appropriate character, can they save the sheet until they do?
4. What do you fill in for the Gold section, and buying/selling? Anything?
5. Not really related, but is there a good way to do these digitally? My SS game is PBP.

I've run a decent amount of Society, but never Adventure Paths for credit before, so this is all kind of new to me. Any help is greatly appreciated!

Grand Lodge 4/5 **** Venture-Captain, California—Sacramento

Actually it has been discussed on the board that you can give full credit for adventure paths no matter *what* rules they are run under, as long as the story elements are unchanged. And by no matter what, I mean that Mike Brock has given his blessing to Savage Worlds, oWoD LARP, Boffer LARP, and I think possibly he agreed to a movie, (Though the latter might need to negotiate a licencing deal, not sure how that works, and his agreement to the movie was in the form of he didn't say no.)

I'll let someone who has done it before answer your questions though, my own knowledge is just theoretical.

Grand Lodge 4/5

1) Yes, when they get the sheet, they needd to know which PC it is going to be applied ot.
2) At or below the top level in the tier of the sheet. If witihin the three lvel range, applied immediately. If below, it gets applied when the PC reaches the lowest level. Or it can be gold-reduced to 1398 or 1399, and immediately applied to a 1st level PC.
3) See second answer above.
4) Nothing anymore, other than a reference to the ITS applicable.
5) Print and scan, or there are a couple of apps that can extract the chronicles so you can fill them out electronically to email to your players.

5/5

Note that, unfortunately, it's been stated that AP chronicles cannot be awarded after the AP has been finished. i.e. retroactively.

Scarab Sages 2/5

Jeremy Chapman wrote:
Note that, unfortunately, it's been stated that AP chronicles cannot be awarded after the AP has been finished. i.e. retroactively.

Is there a reason behind this? We just finished Jade Regent, and I'm not sure what the difference is between having applied it then and applying it now. If anything, it's worse to have it applied later because they are getting the experience and prestige late, but I'd think they should still get some credit if it was at least recent.

I'm talking about a two month lateness here. :)

Grand Lodge 5/5

Here is a link to the blog post and a quote from Mike Brock.

Link

Gwaihir wrote:


Very nice. Now, I understand that this can't give retroactive credit (Blast!), but my players are in the middle of Foxglove Manor and will complete it at our next game session (which may be tonight).
So, do they get a chronicle (as if they played a pregen) for this module? Or does it only apply when you're starting the specified areas after this announcement?
Mike Brock wrote:
Yes, they receive a Chronicle for it. If you are in the midst of any part of a sanctioned area, then a Chronicle may be awarded to players upon completion.
Gwaihir Scout wrote:


Either way, we don't get credit for Burnt Offerings, correct?
MikeBrock wrote:
That is correct. We toyed with the idea of retroactive credit, but we didn't want inconsistencies in our past rulings, such as when we sanctioned a ton of modules all at once.

Scarab Sages 2/5

I'm still unsure on the logic behind this. Was the reason to not give retroactive credit because they completed it before RotRL was authorized as a legal thing? If that's the case, that makes sense. I wouldn't want people to complete an AP, have it become legal for PFS credit, then have a bunch of people instantly get 6 chronicles worth of credit.

If Jade Regent had been approved for PFS play before we began, then perhaps that would be acceptable? Not sure how to find that out. Hmm.

At the very least, I definitely need to give out chronicle sheets for our Carrion Crown play and Shattered Star play so far, heh.

Sczarni 4/5 RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16

Karui Kage wrote:

I'm still unsure on the logic behind this. Was the reason to not give retroactive credit because they completed it before RotRL was authorized as a legal thing? If that's the case, that makes sense. I wouldn't want people to complete an AP, have it become legal for PFS credit, then have a bunch of people instantly get 6 chronicles worth of credit.

If Jade Regent had been approved for PFS play before we began, then perhaps that would be acceptable? Not sure how to find that out. Hmm.

At the very least, I definitely need to give out chronicle sheets for our Carrion Crown play and Shattered Star play so far, heh.

I believe at the time of that post, Rise of the Runelords had just been sanctioned, so they did not want to grant chronicle sheets for games run before the PFS rules for it came out.

For the APs that were sanctioned at the time your players played the adventures, that's less of an issue. I think it's a matter of scale. They don't want someone going, "Hey, remember that game we played two years ago? Here's a chronicle for it!"

If you just finished the AP, then you might have a valid argument. I'm not sure if it would be a problem to hand out all six chronicles at once, though, since I think they are meant to be given as soon as the PCs complete the appropriate volume.

Grand Lodge 4/5 **** Venture-Captain, California—Sacramento

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Yeah. I believe the retroactive rule just applies to games run before the rules change.

Liberty's Edge 4/5 5/5

Chronicle sheets should be handed out and assigned as soon as you finish the sanctioned section of an AP chapter. Otherwise you're going to get into all sorts of weirdness with dates, things being applied out of order, etc.

If a player turned up at my game on 13th March, having played a scenario on 1st March and then having six AP chapter chronicles assigned between then and now, it would set off my audit alarm bells...

Scarab Sages 2/5

I spoke to Mike about it. Sounds like the retroactive rule is as suspected, mostly to prevent credit done before the APs were allowed.

When I date them I'll be dating them as we played, so you'll see a range of dates through 2013 for our Jade Regent game, for example. I'm pretty meticulous about recording everything... haha.

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