Drow Noble Martial Character


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


Just for discussion's sake...if you took a Martial Character as a Drow, say a Ninja class to keep it simple, and from 1 - 13th level took all the Drow noble feats and spell like ability feats:

1st: Drow Nobility
3rd: Improved Drow Nobility
5th: Greater Drow Nobility
7th: Umbral Scion
9th: Improved Umbral Scion
11th: Spider Step
13th: Noble Spell Resistance

Could you make a viable character doing this as a Ninja without making yourself kind of useless at 13th level? (Yes I know, Rogue/Ninja is horrible, honestly this is for an NPC/possible PC at a later date if needed) What kind of build would you make? Keep in mind you have to take the prereq stats of Cha 13 and Wis 13. Spider Step could be moved to anywhere other than 1st level if that makes a difference.

Assume any gear with gp total of 180k or less.


Hard to say. Items can make up for a lot, but this guy would have serious issues in combat (ninja tricks can only make up for so many feats).


I would drop AT LEAST Spider step, as it REALLY suck and Umbral Scion and Improved Umbral Scion arent that good either. But the rest have their uses as casting darkness will allow you to get off sneak attack as long as your dm allows you to take feats that allow you to see in darkness even though they are normally for tieflings or fetchlings.


zauriel56 wrote:
I would drop AT LEAST Spider step, as it REALLY suck and Umbral Scion and Improved Umbral Scion arent that good either. But the rest have their uses as casting darkness will allow you to get off sneak attack as long as your dm allows you to take feats that allow you to see in darkness even though they are normally for tieflings or fetchlings.

They have that silly morphing short sword item for Drow that gives you blind Fight...but bleh.

Is there a feat that lets you quicken an SLA?


Yes. It's a monster feat called quicken spell like ability.


williamoak wrote:
Yes. It's a monster feat called quicken spell like ability.

Ahh...right. Well Drow are monsters...right...

*looks left*
*looks right*

Yeah....


ShadeOfRed wrote:
williamoak wrote:
Yes. It's a monster feat called quicken spell like ability.

Ahh...right. Well Drow are monsters...right...

*looks left*
*looks right*

Yeah....

Dunno if it's legit for stuff like PFS, but a lot of people consider "monster" feats (like quicken SLA, ability focus, and others) as acceptable for PCs. At my own table, it's a case by case basis.


Bestiary 1 - Appendix 5: Monster Feats wrote:
Most of the following feats apply specifically to monsters, although some player characters might qualify for them (particularly Craft Construct)

That's all there is on qualifying for monster feats. They usually only apply to monsters, but there aren't any special prerequisites for taking them other than their normal prerequisites. Ability Focus in particular is one that lots of PCs take.

Nothing special is required to take them, they're on the table unless your GM has banned all of the bestiaries from his game for some bizarre reason.


Okay...so like I thought, no way to salvage to remain somewhat useful, burning all those feats like that.

I guess I could get rid of Umbral and improved Umbral and spider step.

Then take Blind Fight, Improved Blind Fight at 7th and 9th...

Nope...never mind. You have to be 20th level to Quicken SLA Deeper Darkness if I'm reading it right.

Better way to do something with the Drow Noble SLA? Or are they useless and to feat intensive?


Deeper darkness is a 3rd level spell, so you'd need to be 14th level to select it with Quicken Spell-Like Ability.


Aratrok wrote:
Deeper darkness is a 3rd level spell, so you'd need to be 14th level to select it with Quicken Spell-Like Ability.

Yeah I just realized I was doubling spell level and then halving player level...blah.

I'll probably just keep him as an NPC then.

First time trying to do this...can't see why the commoner Drow don't overthrow their weaker Noble leaders. Since they could easily be more powerful than the Nobles who have to take these feat taxes to get what they are presumably born with. :)

Oh well.

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