well, look at the character's class development, and what might mesh from the character's role playing that would mesh with the lords available. I think it would be much easier to identify the deeds he's performing that would trigger a lord's interest. As you've said, the ranger doesn't need to be a goody two-shoes, and vice versa the empyreal lord's not expecting perfection, just an alignment of goals.
You've got a few choices depending on what the characters ideals are.
Sarenrae (NG) is the goddess of redemption so I think she'd always be interested.
Cayden Cailean (CG) is the god of freedom and bravery.
Desna (CG) is the goddess of travelers and luck.
Erastil (LG) is the god of hunting.
I don't use empyreal lords so I've no ideas on them.
I'd recommend find something the character believes strongly in and finding the god that goes with that or as previously stated Sarenrae always works for redemption (unless you're nonredeemable and then she kills you)
i really dont even understand what an emp lord is, really... demi gods?
I despise the golarion pantheon with the exception of Asmodeus , I think that was a stroke of genius making the ole king devil a deity.
Im also too lazy to make my own host of gods.
I'd like to know more about emp lords, but don't want to pay any money for information that may just be worthless.
my suggestion is a case like yours is 'just make it up' as you go along... that's what all the greats do!
i really dont even understand what an emp lord is, really... demi gods?
I despise the golarion pantheon with the exception of Asmodeus , I think that was a stroke of genius making the ole king devil a deity.
Im also too lazy to make my own host of gods.
I'd like to know more about emp lords, but don't want to pay any money for information that may just be worthless.
my suggestion is a case like yours is 'just make it up' as you go along... that's what all the greats do!
Empyreal Lords is about 3/4 of the way down to the bottom.
-- david
I actually do have my own Pantheon. I recently converted them over to the Pathfinder Domains (my pantheon was originally for a game system I was designing and gave up on as too complex (I included such aspects as "consciousness" and "health" (Stun/Body of Champions) and damage reduction through armor - yeah, it took forever to do anything) but I still need to rework the mythos.
One of these days I might actually post it online. Though I did come up with an interesting alternative for Empyreal Lords - the Gods' children. So in order to be divine, you need to have a divine bloodline (or in one case steal the essence of a God, and even in that case, the entity was not mortal to begin with).
i really dont even understand what an emp lord is, really... demi gods?
I despise the golarion pantheon with the exception of Asmodeus , I think that was a stroke of genius making the ole king devil a deity.
Im also too lazy to make my own host of gods.
I'd like to know more about emp lords, but don't want to pay any money for information that may just be worthless.
my suggestion is a case like yours is 'just make it up' as you go along... that's what all the greats do!
Empyreal Lords is about 3/4 of the way down to the bottom.
-- david
those are WHO the emp lords are... not understanding WHAT an emp lord IS.
and...why is sarenrae both a deity and an emp lord?
i really dont even understand what an emp lord is, really... demi gods?
I despise the golarion pantheon with the exception of Asmodeus , I think that was a stroke of genius making the ole king devil a deity.
Im also too lazy to make my own host of gods.
I'd like to know more about emp lords, but don't want to pay any money for information that may just be worthless.
my suggestion is a case like yours is 'just make it up' as you go along... that's what all the greats do!
Empyreal Lords is about 3/4 of the way down to the bottom.
-- david
those are WHO the emp lords are... not understanding WHAT an emp lord IS.
and...why is sarenrae both a deity and an emp lord?
Empyreal Lords are the chief angelic powers. Leaders of the various courts of heaven. The good equivalent to Archdevils, Demon Lords, the Four Horsemen, etc. etc. etc.
Sarenrae is an Empyreal Lord who became a deity. Same way Lamashtu is a Demon Lord who is also a deity, and Asmodeus is an Archdevil who is also a deity.
those are WHO the emp lords are... not understanding WHAT an emp lord IS.
and...why is sarenrae both a deity and an emp lord?
Definition of Empyreal Lord. This also explains the entry for Sarenrae.
-- david
those are WHO the emp lords are... not understanding WHAT an emp lord IS.
and...why is sarenrae both a deity and an emp lord?
Definition of Empyreal Lord. This also explains the entry for Sarenrae.
-- david
ah yes demi gods, precisely what i assumed they were.... what would be the draw back to worshipping a demi god vs. a full god?
in 1e the difference was you didnt get access to a full spell list.
those are WHO the emp lords are... not understanding WHAT an emp lord IS.
and...why is sarenrae both a deity and an emp lord?
Definition of Empyreal Lord. This also explains the entry for Sarenrae.
-- david
ah yes demi gods, precisely what i assumed they were.... what would be the draw back to worshipping a demi god vs. a full god?
in 1e the difference was you didnt get access to a full spell list.
Would there be? In PF/3.5 you don't need a deity to get a full spell list. Just deep personal conviction and belief in a cause.
Main thing is demigods get four domains, full gods get five.
Beyond that, nothing that I know of.
Would there be? In PF/3.5 you don't need a deity to get a full spell list. Just deep personal conviction and belief in a cause.
True but in Golorian you must worship one and only one god/demigod to get spells.
so in Golarian you can worship a toad as long as he grants a spell list and has domains?
