Magic required and Woods

[Mike Riley 302]

This came up in a game tonight:

The fighter was going up against a Shadow(?) which requires Magic to actually defeat (without Magic, it's shuffled back into its location). However, this was at the Woods which says that undefeated monsters are removed from the location.

Which should take priority?

[cartmanbeck]

Mike Riley 302 wrote:

This came up in a game tonight:

The fighter was going up against a Shadow(?) which requires Magic to actually defeat (without Magic, it's shuffled back into its location). However, this was at the Woods which says that undefeated monsters are removed from the location.

Which should take priority?

Both of the cards go into effect. The Shadow isn't defeated, and then the location says that undefeated monsters are banished, so it's banished without being defeated.

[Myriade]

If you read the "Golden Rule" on page 2 of the rulebook, it gives a list apriority. In this case, it seems that the location card overrules the monster card, so the monster would be banished.

[TClifford]

Actually, you don't even have to worry about any kind of problems between the cards. The Shadow card says it isn't defeated, so then it would go back in the deck. No conflict there. The Woods card states that undefeated cards are banished, so that card is overruling the rule stating it is shuffled back into the deck.

[Mike Riley 302]

Myriade wrote:

If you read the "Golden Rule" on page 2 of the rulebook, it gives a list apriority. In this case, it seems that the location card overrules the monster card, so the monster would be banished.

Forgot about that, Myriade. That's what I was looking for.

[Vic Wertz]

In this case, it's not the location that overrides the monster card—it's that the location card overrides the rules.

Rules: The Golden Rule wrote:

If a card and this rulebook are ever in conflict, the card should be considered correct.

The Shadow says it's undefeated. Nothing in this situation changes that. The rules say that undefeated monsters get shuffled back into the location deck. But the location card says undefeated monsters get banished, and that trumps the rule.