Vanara and Climbing


Rules Questions


Specifically for PCs. According to Bestiary 3 Vanara have a climb speed of 20. In Advanced Races Vanara have a climb speed of 30. According to climb, if you have a natural speed movement you get a +8 on climb skills.

Which speed is correct?
My assumption with the climb bonus is that the player should add that in (the +8), since neither the B3 PC summary nor the Advanced Races Guide mention it at all.


I would go with what is on the website personally. 30 ft speed of Climbing isn't exactly game breaking and it coincides with the typical 30 feet medium humanoid speed(usually anyways). If it were flying, I would say go with the lower speed.

They would indeed add the +8 in.

I play a Vanaras Qinggong Monk and trust me, that Climb is useful(on occasion) but doesn't huge advantage of anything.


Just wondering, that's all.

I run a campaign in a predominately rain forest environment, so climbing Vanaras are as common as my walking characters. Lots of vertical activity. The question popped up because one of the non-Vanara players told me that a creature with a climb speed doesn't need to make climb checks (since I verify everything after the game, naturally the oddity of speed popped up).

Thanks, though. That was my assumption.


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

Both are "correct." The advanced races versions are explicitly allowed to vary from the standard writeup. And yes, both versions get the racial bonus to climb.


Anything with a Climb speed gets a racial bonus to Climb. They also don't need to make 'normal' Climb checks, are not flat-footed while climbing, and can 'take 10' when Climbing for complicated tasks.

As for which book is correct, asking the DM is always a first, but if you ARE the DM or want to convince him, go with the most recently published book and check for Errata. Alternatively, as the Advanced Races was designed for player character races, I'd generally tend to favor it over a Bestiary.

A rain forest campaign sounds pretty awesome, BTW.


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Designers have already clarified that it is supposed to be 20 feet for both.

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