Protecting a spider.


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In my shattered star campaign me and my fellow druid managed to awaken a scarlet spider and it took a liking to the fellow paladin(me.) I know have a lvl 1 spider cohort who is taking levels in rouge. Is their a way for me to take damage for the spider like spells shield other so it does not die so. I know the spider is going to take damage due to my slightly evil Dm attacking everything even if it poses no threat during battle.


what level is the party?

you might be able to give it armor once it can get a feat.

Other than that, there is not much you can do to stop a determined GM.


Its an itsy bitsy spider right? Just treat it like a familiar and keep it hidden in a pack unless you really need it. There is the familiar pouch item, if you want to buy a specific item to do so.


If you're not intending the spider for combat, which you shouldn't, then you're best bet it to just keep in hidden away during combat.

If you do intend to use it for combat, it's going to die. Unless you pickup leadership and your GM lets you use the monstrous cohort rules to have a spider cohort which will level with you.

I'm not sure what you mean by saying the spider will take class levels, because unless you are using the Leadership feat, I'm not sure how you can achieve anything like that unless it's DM fiat.


I am taking the leadership feat i have had it since lvl 7 and this will be my first cohort at level 11. The spider is like a spider scarlet but he said it will have extremely low con for a higher dexterity ( not my choice). The problem is my DM is slightly evil he will probably say something like when i fall the spider will get crushed or something of that sort. I am just trying to minimize the risk of having my first cohort die.


brad water wrote:
The problem is my DM is slightly evil he will probably say something like when i fall the spider will get crushed or something of that sort. I am just trying to minimize the risk of having my first cohort die.

In which case he's a jerk, and you can't stop DM fiat beyond calling him a jerk and walking away before it happens. If its a tiny thing its not very useful for combat anyway. Just put it in a familiar satchel made of hardtobreakium.

edit: as a side note. A vermin isn't an animal. Awaken works on plants and animals. So its unusual to see an awakened spider or ant.


Well, you've said your DM is evil and you've had Leadership since 7th level and just now are getting a cohort. So I guess we know a bit about how he's evil. What reason has your DM given you for not getting a cohort sooner?

But in any case, there is a feat chain: Combat Reflexes, Bodyguard, that lets you use an attack of opportunity to Aid Another to bump your buddies Armor Class.


The Dm said we have to meet a cohort who is able to venture with you without problem which makes sense.

The problem with my paladin is it is really peaceful it avoids fights light the plague with its above average diplomacy.If it does have to fight he gives opponents time to surrender and if not he always tries to knock them out with the merciful weapon quality.

What the Dm does is always gives me people who attack all evil at first sight and try to kill them and my character does not want that as a partner so right now the spider is the most agreeable out of anyone.


brad water wrote:
The Dm said we have to meet a cohort who is able to venture with you without problem which makes sense.

This makes sense, but then again it doesn't. The DM is directly responsible for who you meet in your travels, more so than even the players. That you have been adventuring for 4 levels without the introduction of even a single viable cohort is a failing as a DM. If the DM is introducing nonviable cohorts that don't meet your character's outlook (attacking evil on sight), then he is not really allowing you to use your feat. A feat should be much like a class feature in that a DM should have a damn good reason to deny you the use of it. Yes, a paladin or cavalier can't ride a mount down the dungeon's six foot tall hallways (unless he is a gnome with a medium mount), but he still gets to have the mount.

If I was in your position, I'd tactfully tell the DM that a level 1 spider is the last insufficient cohort you care to tolerate and ask to swap out the feat.


By the rules of the leadership feat, your leadership score should be at least 14 or so. Your cohort should be 9th level.

It sounds like the GM decided he doesn't like the Leadership feat -- and it is a somewhat messed-up feat, admittedly -- but isn't outright forbidding it. You should say, "Look, it seems like you're wanting to prevent the full range of what the leadership feat provides, but this is making it useless to me. How about we do a rebuild and replace the feat with a different one, then you won't have the frustration of having to try to provide me with cohorts, and I won't have the frustration of trying to work with the cohorts you're willing to give me. We apparently didn't communicate very well on our expectations regarding this feat, so let's take a step back from it and try something else."


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How does a mindless creature become a cohort, or have class levels?


Ravingdork wrote:
How does a mindless creature become a cohort, or have class levels?

The druid has awakened the spider and the DM has let me use it as a cohort.

The DM is slightly new as this is his second time ever Gming first failed horribly at a lvl 1 homebrew and never completed it but he has ran this from 1 to level 11 so far it has been fun.

I do not mind to much that i do not have a cohort because I have had so many uses on my followers by themselves and for some reason the spider has grown a liking to me so even if it does not become my cohort It will still follow me or i would just take it.

This is not a last attempt to find a cohort If i wanted to I could wait even longer for a cohort but one thing led to another thing and the spider formed a bond with me and my character is starting to enjoy it as well.


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I thought awaken only worked on plants and animals, not vermin.


Ravingdork wrote:
I thought awaken only worked on plants and animals, not vermin.

It does. I pointed that out earlier.


Sorry didn't see your earlier post. I will ask him about it but I am pretty sure he will allow it.


I would say don't bother to ask, because it might give the DM even more reason to delay giving you a cohort.

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