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Okay, in an effort to advance my eeevil plans, I was musing about what class the various movie incarnations of James Bond would be. Please become one of my evil minions and post your thoughts on this. For bonus points, speculate on the next bond. To be promoted to henchman: KILL BOND, *NOW*!!!

Sean Connery - the original; the standard by which all others are judged. Class: Cavalier. His lance is a Walther PPK, his horse is an Astin-Martin, he cleans up nice, he's got the skills, and you don't want to be on the receiving end of his critical hit. Besides, "cavalier" is just a plain fun way to describe him.
George Lazenby - The forgotten bond. Class: Monk? Sorry, George. I've only sat through your Bond outing once and I can't remember a thing.
Roger Moore - the funnier, more cuddly bond. Class: Bard. He wasn't the best fighter, but he had the skills and the panache in spades.
Timothy Dalton - The vengeful bond. Class: Rogue. Yeah, the sneakier bond, the one that played up the assassin role a little more. Plus, angsty.
Pierce Brosnan - believe it or not, he has more notches in the grip of his pistol than any other Bond. Holds the records for highest total body count, and the highest body count of any Bond movie to date (Goldeneye). Class: Urban Ranger with favored enemies Henchmen, Mook, and random soldier. He's got all of the social skills and the Bond persona, but he was a killing machine first and foremost.
Daniel Craig - The shirtless Bond. Class: Fighter. Wow, does he have the physicality of Bond down. Rough, tough, cuts no slack. While his depth of character increased with Skyfall, his forte isn't seduction, baccarat, or sneakiness. It's handing out whuppins and causing mass destruction.

I'm excited to see where Mr. Craig goes with the next Bond adventure after the "reboot" at the end of Skyfall. However, at some point he's going to hang up the Martini glass. Whom should we install in this most sacred of franchises?
My ideas:
Idris Elba gets a lot of talk. I think he'd be wonderful for the part, personally. Read just about any article on imdb about Bond for more. I won't rehash it here.
How about Jessica Chastain? Now, I know what you're thinking: WHAT?!! AN *AMERICAN* BOND??!!!!!@111@!!!@!~!@!! ARGLEBARGLE!!!!!$12!!!!@@@!!!!
Hey, it's worth exploring... Okay, maybe Saoirse Ronan instead? She's Irish, just like Mr. Brosnan. But too young yet. Maybe one day...
Actually, I think my pick for next best Bond would be Michael Fassbender. I could watch him eat a box of cereal and read the newspaper for two hours. Imagine what he could do with Bond. He chews up every scene he's in, he's serious about getting into his characters, and he's definitely got the intangibles.

Thoughts? Other ideas? Though this is merely a frivolous thought exercise, all minions are encouraged to give their opinion. Minions with opinions are MOpinions and less likely to be mercilessly slaughtered while slightly inconveniencing Jamie Bond. Warning: as evil overlord, I will not execute, but I will mercilessly mock any minions who can't seem to capitalize in their posts...


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I think you should re-watch the Lazenby movie. He was mutch better than Moore.


The 8th Dwarf wrote:
I think you should re-watch the Lazenby movie. He was Mitch better than Moore.

Your suggestion is well taken, minion. Now proceed to eeevil HR for your jumpsuit and machinegun that always misses.

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Craig = Inquisitor is a better fit I think ... fits the way he's played the role so far ... I agree with the others you listed though.

EDIT: Oh Lazenby ... hmmm ... not monk ... but like you it has been far too long since I watched OHMSS ...


I'm re-watching all of the Bond movies (via Netflix DVD) with my 15-year-old kid. (We saw Skyfall when it was in theatres, and she loved it-- it was her first Bond flick.) We decided to watch all 23 of them again, in order.

While I'd seen them all, some I hadn't seen in 30 years. There were a few that I'd only seen on network TV (ABC had the broadcast license for most of the 1980s) or on the big screen during its original release in theatres.

Anyway, we watched On Her Majesty's Secret Service about three weeks ago. I hadn't rembered it fondly, but on watching it again, I thought it was actually very good!

Granted, Lazenby's acting ability is probably the weakest part of the film, but it's still very much worth watching. Diana Rigg is probably my favorite Bond Girl. We both thought it was a superior film to Connery's Bond swansong Diamonds Are Forever, and it was certainly better than Moore's The Man With The Golden Gun. Honestly, I liked it better than Thunderball-- the underwater sequences really got a bit boring after a while.

We're watching The Spy Who Loved Me Friday night. I remember that was my favorite of the Moore era, but I last saw it in the late '80s. We'll see how it stands up!

As for PF stats for the Lazenby Bond... monk might not be a bad choice. He does a LOT of hand-to-hand combat, including a bunch of judo moves. He also does a lot of climbing, and succeeds at a number of Disable Device checks.


The real Bonds (Connery, Craig, and a bit of Brosnan for my money) all have 10 levels in the Assassin PrC.


Can anyone list all of them, from most to least favorite? (For the purpose of this exercise, the versions of Casino Royale that starred Barry Nelson and David Niven can be ignored. Include a geriatric Connery in Never Say Never Again at your option -- it was better movie than the original Thunderball, after all.)

I'll start (bear in mind I haven't seen Skyfall yet, so it's not on the list):

1 On Her Majesty's Secret Service
2 Goldfinger
3 GoldenEye
4 For Your Eyes Only
5 Casino Royale
6 Tomorrow Never Dies
7 Octopussy
8 From Russia with Love
9 Dr. No
10 Never Say Never Again
11 Live and Let Die
12 The Living Daylights
13 The Man with the Golden Gun
14 License to Kill
15 Die Another Day
16 A View to a Kill
17 Thunderball
18 The World is Not Enough
19 Diamonds are Forever
20 The Spy Who Loved Me
21 You Only Live Twice
22 Quantum of Solace
23 Moonraker

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Best James Bond.


Okay... I'll give it a shot.

Keep in mind that I haven't seen the ones released in the '80s since... well, the '80s, so my opinions may very well shift after I've re-watched them.

1. Casino Royale (2006)
2. The Spy Who Loved Me
3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
4. Skyfall
5. From Russia With Love
6. For Your Eyes Only
7. Goldeneye
8. You Only Live Twice
9. Goldfinger
10. Tomorrow Never Dies
11. The World Is Not Enough
12. Live And Let Die
13. The Living Daylights
14. Octopussy
15. Die Another Day
16. Thunderball
17. Dr. No
18. Quantum of Solace
19. Moonraker
20. Diamonds Are Forever
21. License To Kill
22. The Man With The Golden Gun
23. A View To A Kill

(I didn't include Never Say Never Again... it was an unofficial, non-Eon production, after all! If I were to include it, I'd probably put it after The Living Daylights.)

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