Weapon finesse and Scimitar

[MrTheThird]

I've seen a lot of people using weapon finesse with a scimitar but have yet to find any rules that allow this, So how is this possible and could someone point me to the book with this info please.

[james maissen]

MrTheThird wrote:

I've seen a lot of people using weapon finesse with a scimitar but have yet to find any rules that allow this, So how is this possible and could someone point me to the book with this info please.

There is a feat called Dervish Dance, search for it.

-James

[Axl]

Link: Dervish Dance

[Aldarionn]

Dervish Dance comes from the Inner Sea World Guide which means it is not part of the Core Rules. By the Core Rules, it's not possible, but if you allow supplements, Dervish Dance allows you to use a Scimitar and use Dexterity to calculate attack and damage.

[Xyllen]

Weapon Finesse (Combat)

You are trained in using your agility in melee combat, as opposed to brute strength.

Benefit: With a light weapon, rapier, whip, or spiked chain made for a creature of your size category, you may use your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier on attack rolls. If you carry a shield, its armor check penalty applies to your attack rolls.

Special: Natural weapons are considered light weapons.

THE SCIMITAR does not have a description in the core book, tho that is where it appears. This is an oversight by pathfinder.

It is mentioned in the dervish dancer feat as acceptable. So one would assume that it qualifies for the feat.

In the 3.5 book is it described
"Scimitar: the curve on this blade gives the effect of a keener edge."
Also, not giving it a clear answer.

Facts as rules as written would be:
One-handed weapon
slashing
18-20 X2 crit range
With no mention of weapons finesse being useable unless you have a class or feat that allows you to use the weapons finesse feat in conjunction with another feat or class ability.

It is generally accepted that the scimitar is useable with the weapons finesse feat, especially in pfs where the inner sea guide has dervish dance.

[Ubercroz]

@ Xyllen:

You are incorrect. This was not an oversight by Pathfinder, it was intentional. The scimitar is not a weapon finesse weapon. Weapon finesse does not work on that weapon ESPECIALLY in PFS.

What dervish dance does is allow you apply your DEX to both hit and damage on the scimitar and requires weapon finesse to get it. This was also intentional. Essentially to get the benefit of using DEX for + hit/dmg you have to burn a feat (or use a not scimitar for a couple of levels).

This change was an intentional one, otherwise it would have been changed over the many errata and re-printings of the Core Rulebook, it has not been changed.

[Zahir ibn Mahmoud ibn Jothan]

There may not be a description of the Scimitar, but it is listed as one handed, and not light. Weapon Finesse doesn't work, but Dervish Dance does, with Weapon Finesse as a tax.