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The REAL question is: Did DWARVES get adequate treatment?
I'm quite sure the gnomes did.
Until Gnomes get an option to replace the CHA bonus with INT, then the Gnomes will not have been adequately treated. Once that happens, they will finally have a place that is not infinitely better covered by Halflings.
| Cheapy |
Foghammer wrote:Until Gnomes get an option to replace the CHA bonus with INT, then the Gnomes will not have been adequately treated. Once that happens, they will finally have a place that is not infinitely better covered by Halflings.The REAL question is: Did DWARVES get adequate treatment?
I'm quite sure the gnomes did.
lol
I have a feeling the OP's answer is "No".
Well, maybe if he gave some actual criteria, we could answer it better. "Adequate treatment"? Well yes, duh. They get 10 pages worth of material, just like all the other core races do.
They get quite a few nice things, especially for casters.
| Foghammer |
Elves got the AMAZING druid options we saw in the Blog Post weeks ago. That alone did it for me.
Also:
Until Gnomes get an option to replace the CHA bonus with INT, then the Gnomes will not have been adequately treated. Once that happens, they will finally have a place that is not infinitely better covered by Halflings.
lol (<3 Cheapy)
Exocrat
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Elves get a wizard archetype (Spell Binder) that can switch out a prepared spell for one of a limited number of "bonded spells" as a full-round action.
Spell Dancer is a Magus Archetype that trades Medium and Heavy armor for +2 then +4 to AC in light armor, and subs out weapon enhancement bonuses for an activated mode that lets him use fly, blur, haste, and d-door as SLAs.
For alternate racial traits, the only ones that stand out to me are trading weapon familiarity for +2 to combat casting, and trading low-light vision to get darkvision 60 and light sensitivity.
Exocrat
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Page 9 and to a lesser extent 8 explain everything. And saying that only elves can keep their food away from the wildlife is a flat-out lie.
Or /sarcasm. I was just making fun of the fact that a bag on a rope flung over a tree branch is listed as an elf item and that other races can only use it at GM discretion.
Also it's pretty silly that there's a specific item for this when almost every adventurer ever has the equipment at hand to do it anyway.
Exocrat
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The majority of items in the book are available on the open market and anyone can use them. The book makes this clear. The ones that aren't are almost always alchemical items that only affect a specific race.
I'm with you, but it uses terms like "often" and "many" and doesn't spell out exactly which things are supposed to be usable by other races. Which means somewhere, sometime, some GM will prohibit a human from using a bear bag because it's in the elf section.
Which makes me laugh.
| Cheapy |
Cheapy wrote:They can get fangs...Bite attack? CON DRAIN?! ULTIMATE VAMPIRE TRANSFORMATION!?!?!
None of the above?
Think of how the vampires have used their fangs in the quality novels and movies. Now think of how to best transfer that to the game. They didn't use their fangs as a furious bite attack.
Stockvillain
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Didn't look too closely at the Spelldancer at first, but noting the dimension door SLA means we've got elf magi pulling a Nightcrawler with the Dimensional Agility chain, yar? I lost track of the final ruling on the Dimensional Agility threads. If the SLA qualifies, then it's *bamf* time for the elf magus!
| Foghammer |
Umbral Reaver wrote:What happens if you hand it to a gnome? Does the gnome just look at it confusedly, shrug and give up?No, the gnome climbs into the bag and then you can hang him in the tree. :-)
Can we be best friends?
EDIT: I just realized that you probably didn't mean for that to sound as malevolent as I thought you did.