Be nice!

[Brix]

Paizo is a company that earns money. As such they are subject to criticism if something went wrong. This is ok.
Paizo is also a company that is imo a role model with regards to customer care.
They give away free beta rules, ask for your input, answer your questions, are active at social media plattforms, offer contests like the RPG Superstar, etc.
On a side note, they publish the best iteration of D&D related gaming so far. They even banished the undefeatable giant on rank number two.
Paizo is absolutly awesome.
Now they are building a computer game (with a partner). I'm sure it will be awesome at the end. They don't develope the game in a dark and hidden laboratory, but again ask people about their input.
I really finf that comments like "if you do this or that, you'll piss me off" are not appropriate.
I think it's ok to give suggestions, but not to threat someone.
I want that the team is motivated and that they do the best possible product. I don't want them to be frustrated, before the released the first single screenshot.

[Icyshadow]

I've seen reasonable people being kicked out of these forums and others being trolled on an almost-daily basis for having different ideologies (as in, not supporting the "Always chaotic evil" trope) among other things. I still think that some of the rules that Pathfinder uses need fixing, but even saying that draws trolls to me like a light draws bugs into my room at summer nights. And people don't care to be nice here, this is the internet after all, and you have to attack people who do not agree with you (as in, the PvP vs. PvE threads and all the trolling Scott Betts and others get at times).

If that was too long a read, then I'll just say this:
People being nice on the internet is as likely to happen as rolling a natural 20 ten times in a row.

[superfly2000]

I think this forum isn't so bad.

I've seen a lot worse when it comes to MMO's....

About asking people...I don't know if that is the right way. Thats like putting "the people" in the developers seat and basically asking them to develop the game for you. Usually ends in all games being the same (have we seen it before?).

I'm not saying to not let the community discuss and then tune in on the conversation or eavesdrop and perhaps even find some inspiration...but their product has to be their own.

[Elth]

I agree with Superfly.

I like everyone here even if I do disagree with them on occasion.
I don't understand why it always has to be taken so personal.

[Brix]

superfly2000 wrote:

I think this forum isn't so bad.

I've seen a lot worse when it comes to MMO's....

About asking people...I don't know if that is the right way. Thats like putting "the people" in the developers seat and basically asking them to develop the game for you. Usually ends in all games being the same (have we seen it before?).

I'm not saying to not let the community discuss and then tune in on the conversation or eavesdrop and perhaps even find some inspiration...but their product has to be their own.

Well I think that asking people does not hurt. When there was no internet companies had to spend a lot of money on market research.

I don't think, that they put people in the developers seat. Look, when Pathfinder RPG was beta tested, a lot of popular alternate rules were dropped, in favor of what we play today. So they don't just sit back and let the pepople decide everything. And Pathfinder Beta was already written, before it was tested.

I think the same approach is used now, and that the developement is much more advanced, then we think. They start to slowly lift the curtain, and check if they are still on track.

I really can't say much about other MMO boards, but I know this board well, and always enjoyed the polite and cooperative tone. So I was a little bit shocked. I wasn't very polite either at the wizards board during the peak of the edition wars, but that was because I felt betrayed. This is something entirely different, since Paizo/goblins are creating something'new'. That's why I don't understand comments like "I'll never buy a book if you don't do the game my way"

[Klaus van der Kroft]

Elth wrote:

I agree with Superfly.

I like everyone here even if I do disagree with them on occasion.
I don't understand why it always has to be taken so personal.

This is the Internets; EVERYTHING has to be taken personally.

This is serious business.