The "Does anyone else" movement speaks to the desperation and loneliness pervading the forums in our time. We've moved on from the Manichaen need to categorize whether any given action is "evil", and — having failed to answer that question — we now ask the much more existential: "Good, Evil, Meh. Does anyone out there share my feelings?"
Meanwhile, the groundless speculation on a new/revised edition of Pathfinder continues unabated, with the moderators diligently shuffling these threads off into the advice/houserules forum. Does this move subtly undermine their credibility? Certainly not in the minds of the participants, who each write with the assurance that their recommendations will be dutifully noted by the devs for their work-already-in-progress.
They can't hide the truth forever! Long Live Pathfinders 1.3e!
The "Does anyone else" movement speaks to the desperation and loneliness pervading the forums in our time. We've moved on from the Manichaen need to categorize whether any given action is "evil", and — having failed to answer that question — we now ask the much more existential: "Good, Evil, Meh. Does anyone out there share my feelings?"
You wouldn't know evil if it walked up and slapped you, Lincoln!
I'm personally tempted to enjoy the "evil/good president/assassin" movement, but in reality it's a touch too esoteric to really play outside the OTD. For the foreseeable future, it is likely to remain a cult success. It certainly doesn't have the caché of "Is this Evil?" or "Caster V. Martial".
Presidential alignments just don't rile the geeks, I suppose.
Pathfinder on CNN has some incredible potential though. Geeks can really go down the rabbit hole when pop culture evaluates them in plain english.
Also, Pizao and Pathfinderz are both fun to say/type. I hope that one is with us for a long time.
I would love to bring FAWTL into the analysis, but I think I'd better hold out for my non-fiction book-signing of Forums Are Way Too Long: An Examination of the Paizoan Era in the Aftermath of the Great Thread Truncation Debate.
I gather from TOZ's emote upthread that the major row between "regulatory threadjackers" (Popcornians) and "constructive conversation" advocates (newbhuggers) ended in favor of the Popcornians. Makes sense. The newbhuggers have an unenforcable position really.
We now ask the much more existential: "Good, Evil, Meh. Does anyone out there share my feelings?"
And yet in theory this more existential question should be more useful, should it not rather than trying to answer a relativistic question in terms of moral absolutes, even if the game does deal in moral absolutes.
At least I know which tribes and mystery cults within a tribe someone belongs to by their search for like minded individuals, [sarcasm]So I can then avoid them like the plague or morally deride them.[/sarcasm].
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I'm personally tempted to enjoy the "evil/good president/assassin" movement, but in reality it's a touch too esoteric to really play outside the OTD. For the foreseeable future, it is likely to remain a cult success. It certainly doesn't have the caché of "Is this Evil?" or "Caster V. Martial".
Presidential alignments just don't rile the geeks, I suppose.
It would if someone had Evil Obama, Lawful Good Bush or Chaotic Neutral Clinton.
It would if someone had Evil Obama, Lawful Good Bush or Chaotic Neutral Clinton.I'm personally tempted to enjoy the "evil/good president/assassin" movement, but in reality it's a touch too esoteric to really play outside the OTD. For the foreseeable future, it is likely to remain a cult success. It certainly doesn't have the caché of "Is this Evil?" or "Caster V. Martial".
Presidential alignments just don't rile the geeks, I suppose.
But how would that help it break out of the gulag that is OTD? Nope. Aligned presidents is a dead end.
BARBARIAN RECOMMEND YELLING AT STUPID THREADS. AM EITHER MAKE THEM GO AWAY, OR ELSE GET MUCH LAUGHS OUT OF THREADS.
AM CLEARLY GOOD STRATEGY FOR PROCEEDING FORWARD. WHAT EVIL PRESIDENT MAN THINK ABOUT RECENT INFLUX OF ALLCAPS AND RESULTANT END OF CASTER MARTIAL DESTRUCITY??
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The personification of not only a class, but of class stereotypes in the C-M D thread has been most interesting, even if it hurts my eyes. I actually made an "Am Wizard" alias early in the movement, but found that I was clearly unqualified to represent the wizard side and I lack the requisite inanity.
Still, as recent fixtures of the forum and something of a movement unto themselves, I think the AMs are definitely a notable part of the Pizzow zeitgeist.
I think it fascinating how AM BARBARIAN transformed from a reasonably-good pro-barbarian mechanical argument to an iconic personality who no longer needs facts, but prevails on perception alone (even though the facts might work out in his favor). Like Shatner. Or Batman.
Still, it's brilliant that we as a forum have developed Godhead-like manifestations of each class at its best... manifestations who can finally settle this unsolvable dispute on our behalf. It's very much something a bunch of roleplayers with pseudonymity would undertake.
oh gawd here comes AM BATMAN
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Here's a crib sheet for those of you who want to play along.
oh gawd here comes AM BATMAN
That joke already missed its ability to be made right around when AM started yelling about a batbarian in the 'stat Batman' thread. I think we're in the clear. And if we're not I will frown.
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But how would that help it break out of the gulag that is OTD? Nope. Aligned presidents is a dead end.It would if someone had Evil Obama, Lawful Good Bush or Chaotic Neutral Clinton.I'm personally tempted to enjoy the "evil/good president/assassin" movement, but in reality it's a touch too esoteric to really play outside the OTD. For the foreseeable future, it is likely to remain a cult success. It certainly doesn't have the caché of "Is this Evil?" or "Caster V. Martial".
Presidential alignments just don't rile the geeks, I suppose.
Think about the possibilities in the alignment/paladin threads...
oh gawd here comes AM BATMAN
No need... he shall just bow down to the dark side.
But how would that help it break out of the gulag that is OTD? Nope. Aligned presidents is a dead end.It would if someone had Evil Obama, Lawful Good Bush or Chaotic Neutral Clinton.I'm personally tempted to enjoy the "evil/good president/assassin" movement, but in reality it's a touch too esoteric to really play outside the OTD. For the foreseeable future, it is likely to remain a cult success. It certainly doesn't have the caché of "Is this Evil?" or "Caster V. Martial".
Presidential alignments just don't rile the geeks, I suppose.
It never works out for you evil types.
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Meanwhile, the groundless speculation on a new/revised edition of Pathfinder continues unabated, with the moderators diligently shuffling these threads off into the advice/houserules forum. Does this move subtly undermine their credibility? Certainly not in the minds of the participants, who each write with the assurance that their recommendations will be dutifully noted by the devs for their work-already-in-progress.
They can't hide the truth forever! Long Live Pathfinders 1.3e!
Personally, I tend to think of the posts I am making as trying to move the dialog to address things I want addressed.
As to good and evil...I think there is always going to be a moving goal of where the brand is going, with all of the participants within the company having a vision that they are trying to push.
And we are the cheerleaders for our personal views.
I love James's vision for world building, even if he is more closed off to some "steampunkish" concepts I like.
I love Jason's drive for system creation, even if I think sometimes he loses sight of the flavor in the hunt for the mechanics.
I love Sean's never ending drive to simplify the minutia, even if I think it over-complicates at times.
And Stephen seems to be the nicest person on earth, even if I wish he would stop trying to put concepts into existing concepts rather than creating new concepts.
And all of them probably think I am a loud-mouthed idiot.
At the end of the day, everyone who posts on here has a vision of where they want the brand to go, and all of us are trying to move the masses toward that vision.
I don't view it in terms of "good" and "evil" as much as "what I want" vs "things I don't want".
And those who remain silent, have no voice. Even if it is just my loud mouth idiot, generally ignored voice.
I said the gunslingers gun should be broken for everyone else and that they should get an armor bonus. It happened. I'm not saying that was me, but I am saying I was part of the discussion. Even if I don't like the final product, I like it better than I would have without those things.
That is why many of us choose Paizo over WOTC. It is a community as much as a corporation.
Tongue planted firmly in cheek when I wrote that stuff about the Edition Reformers of the Pathfinder 1.7 thread.
Especially since I totally am one.
Actually, I'm inciting the Beginner Boxer Rebellion.
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Tongue planted firmly in cheek when I wrote that stuff about the Edition Reformers of the Pathfinder 1.7 thread.
Especially since I totally am one.
Actually, I belong the to the Beginner Boxer Rebellion.
I see that as the next schism.
By the way, I am on your side as simplification is the way to manageable high level play.
That and dice rollers.
By the way, I am on your side ...
There's a thread for that kind of talk, comrade.
This thread is reserved for meta-analysis of the forum's seasonal goings-on. I have previously felt a need for such a thing, and had no place to act on it. NO LONGER.
I would lean more towards desperation than loneliness. And by "desperation" I mean boredom.
I'm not saying there isn't somebody out there shivering naked and cold, whose sole desire in the world is to make a friendly connection here on the board, and will start any conversation, no matter how divisive, just to feel the warm glow of a single kindred spirit.
I'm just saying I think boredom is the more likely cause.
I would lean more towards desperation than loneliness. And by "desperation" I mean boredom.
I'm not saying there isn't somebody out there shivering naked and cold, whose sole desire in the world is to make a friendly connection here on the board, and will start any conversation, no matter how divisive, just to feel the warm glow of a single kindred spirit.
I'm just saying I think boredom is the more likely cause.
Real: You're absolutely right.
Literary Critic: You are an uncultured boor.
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I would lean more towards desperation than loneliness. And by "desperation" I mean boredom.
I'm not saying there isn't somebody out there shivering naked and cold, whose sole desire in the world is to make a friendly connection here on the board, and will start any conversation, no matter how divisive, just to feel the warm glow of a single kindred spirit.
I'm just saying I think boredom is the more likely cause.
Boredom mixed with the inability to make friendly social connections.
Now I want to give Cartigan a hug.
Well...not really...but someone should.
I'm sorry Lincoln, it's probably my fault for creating a monk thread to parody the insurgent gun hate. <_<;
I'm sorry Lincoln, it's probably my fault for creating a monk thread to parody the insurgent gun hate. <_<;
By no means should you apologize to me. (maybe to Gary, though)
I really do think that the forum has "movements" and that sometimes they tell us a lot about the community.
And we need a place to discuss that in a snarky fashion.
Yes, yes we do.
Also on the note of Iconic personalities; we don't need an AM WIZURD (Which hardly makes sense); we need a God Wizard.
Yes, yes we do.
Also on the note of Iconic personalities; we don't need an AM WIZURD (Which hardly makes sense); we need a God Wizard.
That genius thinking, right there.
Gender equality issues!
Election year politics!
Archery!
Role vs Roll rears its ugly head.
Dwarves! Whose side are you on?
Gender equality issues!
Put up yer dukes!
That's the one.
The birth of a new religion.
It is troubling, the quiet oppression of Popcornians that has been sweeping the forums of late. A widespread political movement, or merely a covert cell acting alone? I only hope the black bag has been washed when they come for me in the night.
Back in your cage, you!
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Think about the possibilities in the alignment/paladin threads...But how would that help it break out of the gulag that is OTD? Nope. Aligned presidents is a dead end.It would if someone had Evil Obama, Lawful Good Bush or Chaotic Neutral Clinton.I'm personally tempted to enjoy the "evil/good president/assassin" movement, but in reality it's a touch too esoteric to really play outside the OTD. For the foreseeable future, it is likely to remain a cult success. It certainly doesn't have the caché of "Is this Evil?" or "Caster V. Martial".
Presidential alignments just don't rile the geeks, I suppose.
I saw we fire paladins at a grate to gather some empirical evidence for the double-slit experiment. My hypothesis is paladins are a mushy wave wrapped in a crunchy outer shell.
I have a barbed wire jacket for just such occasions.
Is Pam Anderson still wearing it? Do you need any Purell?
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It is troubling, the quiet oppression of Popcornians that has been sweeping the forums of late. A widespread political movement, or merely a covert cell acting alone? I only hope the black bag has been washed when they come for me in the night.Back in your cage, you!
{whistles "innocently"} I'm surprised no one has created an AM POPCORN alias yet...
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{whistles "innocently"} I'm surprised no one has created an AM POPCORN alias yet...*munch*
Mwah-ha-ha-ha-ha!
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