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Vic Wertz was kind enough to mention about some developments revealed at Gencon that includes the relaunch of the DDM skirmish game.
I missed this particular piece of news. If anyone has more information about this, it would be welcome.
Later,
Mazra
I think the only official info out there came from the Gen Con announcement and the public playtest; I think the ENWorld thread covers everything in the announcement, and my understanding is that the playtest didn't reveal much (if anything) about the minis sets.
WotC had a poll up on the D&D home page this morning about the new skirmish product.
It sounds like their current idea is that the different squads/factions come in their own boxes of 12 minis (presumably the same style pre-painted plastic as DDM was, hopefully some new sculpts), cards, tiles, etc. for about $45 each. It seems a little high for one squad, a little under $4 per mini if you ignore the other components. It sounds like each of those sets has between one and three large minis (2 inch base) and the rest are small/medium. I guess they also plan to have some starter set?
The new minis game also doesn’t use dice (!), just various command cards. I guess both sides put out their cards and then reveal to determine what happens?
L
RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16
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WotC had a poll up on the D&D home page this morning about the new skirmish product.
It sounds like their current idea is that the different squads/factions come in their own boxes of 12 minis (presumably the same style pre-painted plastic as DDM was, hopefully some new sculpts), cards, tiles, etc. for about $45 each. It seems a little high for one squad, a little under $4 per mini if you ignore the other components. It sounds like each of those sets has between one and three large minis (2 inch base) and the rest are small/medium. I guess they also plan to have some starter set?
The new minis game also doesn’t use dice (!), just various command cards. I guess both sides put out their cards and then reveal to determine what happens?
L
The classic card game War! - now with pre-painted fantasy miniatures! :)
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Card games seem to be Wotc's specialty more so than RPGs of late. $45 is way too much to pay for just one side of a game. Back in the DDM skirmish days, you could start playing with a Wardrums Starter for $20. IMHO they would do better with a five or six piece warband at half the price. Or as Greyhaze mentioned on another board, get two six piece factions for the $45, so you start playing immediately. $90 is a price point beyond reach for many in today's economy for what is essentially a tabletop game.
Later,
Mazra
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I think $45 is very much a reasonable price.. That ends up being actually cheaper then Pathfinder Battles Minis, though if the quality is anything like the past, they will be of lesser quality.
Though I do think it is a mistake to put 12 of them together to bring it to $45, if that is what they are doing at that price. That brings it way outside somes price range. It would most likely be better idea to keep these at 4-6 a box.
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I think $45 is very much a reasonable price.. That ends up being actually cheaper then Pathfinder Battles Minis, though if the quality is anything like the past, they will be of lesser quality.
Though I do think it is a mistake to put 12 of them together to bring it to $45, if that is what they are doing at that price. That brings it way outside somes price range. It would most likely be better idea to keep these at 4-6 a box.
$45 is a reasonable price for what you get. No question! But to have to pay another $45 for the other faction just to begin to play is pushing it for many. $90 to play essentially a board game is too much at this level. This new Skirmish game is not a full RPG or as detailed as an Advanced Squad Leader.
However, we are all entitled to our opinions.
Later,
Mazra
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This new Skirmish game is not a full RPG or as detailed as an Advanced Squad Leader.Is *anything* as detailed as ASL?
No. It is better indexed than an encyclopedia. They truly covered every detail. If I ever get stranded on a desert island with one other person, I want the ASL Rulebook, some map boards and the Germans and Russians orders of battle. If there are several people on the island then I want the Pathfinder Core Rulebook, the Bestiary, a set of dice and box full of miniatures.
Later,
Mazra
If I ever get stranded on a desert island with one other person, I want the ASL Rulebook, some map boards and the Germans and Russians orders of battle. If there are several people on the island then I want the Pathfinder Core Rulebook, the Bestiary, a set of dice and box full of miniatures.A late (and unrelated) comment, but really: I enjoy a good game as much as anyone, but if I'm going to be stranded on a desert island, forget rulebooks, dice, and miniatures. I want a woman, some kind of shelter, and LOTS of non-perishable food! :-)
Regards,
Darrell
I think I'd rather have a boat.