Does Vicious work on Guns?


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I was listening to a podcast and it mentioned Vicious says it works on guns according to spellslinger.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/wizard/archetypes/paizo---wiza rd-archetypes/spellslinger
Here: A spellslinger is adept at transferring spell energy into his arcane gun attacks. As a swift action, he can sacrifice a spell and transform that energy into a weapon bonus equal to the level of the spell sacrificed on a single barrel of his firearm. With that weapon bonus the spellslinger can apply any of the following to his arcane bond: enhancement bonuses (up to +5) and dancing, defending, distance, flaming, flaming burst, frost, ghost touch, icy burst, merciful, seeking, shock, shocking burst, spell storing, thundering, vicious , and wounding. An arcane gun gains no benefit from having two of the same weapon special abilities on the same barrel. The effect of the mage bullets ability lasts for a number of minutes equal to the level of the spell sacrificed, or until this ability is used again to assign the barrel different enhancements.

So is this an error?
Because here: it says Melee only
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-weapons#TOC-Vicious

Liberty's Edge

Dancing is also not a ranged weapon ability.
Probably typos.
-Kle.

Dark Archive

Might also be exceptions to the normal. FAQ'd it.

The Exchange

Starbuck_II wrote:

I was listening to a podcast and it mentioned Vicious says it works on guns according to spellslinger.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/wizard/archetypes/paizo---wiza rd-archetypes/spellslinger
Here: A spellslinger is adept at transferring spell energy into his arcane gun attacks. As a swift action, he can sacrifice a spell and transform that energy into a weapon bonus equal to the level of the spell sacrificed on a single barrel of his firearm. With that weapon bonus the spellslinger can apply any of the following to his arcane bond: enhancement bonuses (up to +5) and dancing, defending, distance, flaming, flaming burst, frost, ghost touch, icy burst, merciful, seeking, shock, shocking burst, spell storing, thundering, vicious , and wounding. An arcane gun gains no benefit from having two of the same weapon special abilities on the same barrel. The effect of the mage bullets ability lasts for a number of minutes equal to the level of the spell sacrificed, or until this ability is used again to assign the barrel different enhancements.

So is this an error?
Because here: it says Melee only
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-weapons#TOC-Vicious

You can club people with a gun.


Man, I don't know why, but I get the feeling that was an exceptional podcast that you were listening to.

Regardless, by RAW it would only work (as others have said) if you used the weapon in melee... which doesn't really make much sense. I think it could easily be house ruled to work though...

Sean


That's a good catch/question. FAQ'd.

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