Hello everypony, as you may remember in march 28 the first drafts or Ponyfinder were released, sadly that project was abandoned or a somewhat outtimed April's Fool.
Now, I propose using this beta to clear things a little bit and present playable races.
Humbly,
Yawar
PSD: remember to post the races in the sample race thread to, thank you.
*brohoof*
Not bad but I would have given the earth ponies a bonus feat, and I do not see anything about there "cutie marks"?
Aslo I think both the earth and pegasi should have gotten two hooves attack for 1d4 each but only the earth ones should get it as a primary attack.
Considering that I'm currently attempting to lure a player into my Planescape game through use of Ponyfinder, here are some suggestions.
* - Grant all Ponies a +2 Climb Check on treacherous terrain (narrow cliff trails, slippery rocks, etc) due to their racially inherent four-footed surety.
* - Grant all Ponies the ability to be burdened up to Medium Load without suffering movement penalties (Basically they waive Medium Load penalties entirely) because, well, they're Ponies.
* - Grant all Ponies the ability to move at normal speed through Difficult Terrain, because Ponies are quite sure footed and good at such things.
Definitely need Cutie Marks worked up.
Keep in mind that when I build new races, I tend to keep them on the conservative end of racial abilities - I use Humans as a baseline and then ask "What should be a logical extension of this particular difference?" - in this case, the fact that these are Ponies we're talking about here, means that we should consider what it would be like to basically play a sentient equine. Things that real ponies do in real life should be the primary baseline, with everything else coming secondary.
Cutie Marks could be a spell like ability 0-1st level used 1-3/per day.
Cutie marks are symbol of what they are good at so most cases it would be a boost to a skill(+2 bonus/maybe +4). With the ecxeptions of Twilight who's mark is magic wich means she is better at magic and Rainbow dash who is a better flyer(speed wise). As for the rest it symbolizes what they are best at and/or have talent for.
Having 4 legs does not grant the ability to ignore difficult terrain and it would be to powerful an ability. rocks, tall think grass, uneven surfices, trees/bushes, all would hinder a regular horse.
Cutie marks are symbol of what they are good at so most cases it would be a boost to a skill(+2 bonus/maybe +4). With the ecxeptions of Twilight who's mark is magic wich means she is better at magic and Rainbow dash who is a better flyer(speed wise). As for the rest it symbolizes what they are best at and/or have talent for.
Having 4 legs does not grant the ability to ignore difficult terrain and it would be too* powerful an ability. rocks, tall think grass, uneven surfices, trees/bushes, all would hinder a regular horse.
(fixed that * for ya)
I must respectfully disagree. Ponies and Horses are two entirely different animals; while closely related, the real-world pony is a very sure-footed, stubborn, and sturdy little beast. While they suffer from many of the same problems as their Horsey cousins (issues with damaged legs being chief among them), the average breed of pony handles things like brambles, uneven surfaces, and the like quite well. I point you at the Dartmouth Pony, which is known for its climbing ability.
I don't think it would be too powerful an ability, but it would certainly be a game changer in combat, to be sure. Like I said, though, I tend to build from the logical abilities based on the real-world critter, first, and from a game-mechanic perspective, second.
Thinking about Cutie Marks, on the other hand, I have to concur - make them a +2 Racial Bonus to a skill or perhaps grant them a Feat in relation to skills. A Pony that's especially good at spotting things, for instance, might get Alertness, or what-have-you.
For some reason i can't access the rules in question, so i can't provide any mechanical help, but i'd just like to say...
This may the the most awesome thread I have ever seen on these boards in the history of ever! The only way it could get better is if AM BARBARIAN joined in...
SILLY CASTY. BARBARIAN AM NOT PONY.
AM MAYBE RIDE FLY PONY, THOUGH.
You mean a pony that is a lookout or spy would get alertness. One who is a champion racer would get the Run feat.
In the case of Rainbow dash hers would grant her +10 bonus to her fly speed or an ability that grants her much greater fly speed in short bursts but must recharge an equal amount of time
If you want them to be good but not to good give the earth ponies nimble moves as bonus feat. Since the Pegasi ponies can fly and Unicorn Ponies can use magic/spell powers.
We would definitly need feats for unicorns for better spell powers like Telekinis, light, fabricate, mending, gem detection, etc.
Also who here actually watches the show?
Also who here actually watches the show?
Everyone, obviously, except AM BARBARIAN. He must be a creative director or something alike.
Also who here actually watches the show?Everyone, obviously, except AM BARBARIAN. He must be a creative director or something alike.
BARBARIAN MOSTLY JUST HERE TO SEE WHICH PONY MAKE BEST MOUNT, AM FINALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT RACE BATTY BAT IS.
To put a few ideas :
Language Trait:
Xenophobic* (0 RP) Equestrian (¿common?), bonus: Zebra, common, other, other.
*The one time another pony spoke in another language, Zecora, nobody understand it.
Racial abilities:
Cutie Mark: Adaptability x2 (2 RP), alternatively, under the GM, permision you may choose choose up too 2 RP worth of abilities pertinent to you special talent, elven magic if your special talent is magic for example.
Prehensile Tail (2 RP)
Hoofed (1 RP), this should really count as a penalty. Let's asume that this also gives them hoofes as a natural attack.
Non-dexterous (-2 RP): ponies may only grasp with their mouth one item at a time. They may wield two handed weapon, but suffer a -2 penalties on attack rolls with unmodified weapons (double base cost) and a -10 in any check involving hands.
Net: 3 RP[b]
[b]
Ability score modifiers trait:
Standar (0 RP): -2 STR +2 DEX +2 CHA
Racial abilities:
Spell-Like Ability (3 RP): Mage-hand at will
Mage hand Finnesse (2 RP): unicorns may treat a single object within reach as wielded they may not add their STR bonus to damage rolls with that item and use their dextery modifier and BAB for attack rolls.
Natural Attack (1 RP): Gore id6
Net: 7 + 3 = 10 RP
Ability score modifiers trait:
Greater Weakness (-3 RP): -2 STR +2 DEX -4 CON*
*In the race episode thre pegasi are shown winded up, also fligth is hard to balance.
Racial abilities:
Fligth X3 (8 RP)
Cloud Smithing (2 RP): pegasi may treat clouds as solid objets and build structures from them as if they were made from rock, alternatively they can treat them as more comfy textures. A pegasus need to ramain 7 days a mmonth, not necessarily continous, to mantain such structures.
Net: 7 + 3 = 10 RP
Ability score modifiers trait:
Human Heritage (0 RP):
Racial abilities:
Hardy (1 RP):
Fertile Hoove (1 RP): any area with an earth ponies living in their for a month is treated as the blessed crop version of the plant growth spell with a caster level equal to the earth pony level.
Bonus Feat (4 RP)
Relentless (1 RP): becuase I got 1 extra point
Net: 7 + 3 = 10 RP
Humbly,
Yawar
PSD: Sorry for the wall text, but some spoilers weren't showing.
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By way of comparison, here's an excellent writeup for 4th Edition.
Your Pegasus spoiler isn't opening for some reason.
By way of comparison, here's an excellent writeup for 4th Edition.
Y'know what... that's really well done.
YawarFiesta you do remember that they would be considered magical beast plus the penelty for have hooves instead of hands and the fact they do not have darkvision would be good to add.
Also I like there racial modifiers as is, Eart ponies(+2to any one)Pegasi(+2dex+2cha-2con)Unicorn(+2int+2wis-2str).
Do a 20RP version of them with these racial mods.
YawarFiesta you do remember that they would be considered magical beast plus the penelty for have hooves instead of hands and the fact they do not have darkvision would be good to add.
Also I like there racial modifiers as is, Eart ponies(+2to any one)Pegasi(+2dex+2cha-2con)Unicorn(+2int+2wis-2str).
Do a 20RP version of them with these racial mods.
The problem with magical beast is that they don't exibit low-light vision or other special senses. In "Owl That Ends Well" Twilight, *mild spoiler* has problems seeing in the forest during the night, the owl has to guide her the *end mild spoiler*.
Maybe, they are should be be considered a Magical Beast(pony), and be given the atributes common to every pony + and implied immunity to charm person all the person line.
I'll make a 20 point version of the ponies this afternon when I return from my university.
Humbly,
Yawar
Or you could just toss the whole "does this add up to a certain number of points" dogma and build a PC-Race Pony that stacks up to the races in the core rulebook in terms of feel, flavor, and ability assignations.
Someone in another thread pointed out that one of his rules for building a new race is "Is this as good as a Dwarf?"
That's a good place to start.
Or you could just toss the whole "does this add up to a certain number of points" dogma and build a PC-Race Pony that stacks up to the races in the core rulebook in terms of feel, flavor, and ability assignations.
Someone in another thread pointed out that one of his rules for building a new race is "Is this as good as a Dwarf?"
That's a good place to start.
Sadly, this is the playtest forum so we are kinda supposed to use the as is, or relatively close to that. They'll give us the rules on OGL, I feel that the list I could is help with palytest.
By the way, I feel that all the races are reasonably in terms of dwarf, with the exception of the pegasi wich is a bit underpowered. But that´s part of the playtest. Maybe flight should be 3 RP.
Humbly,
Yawar
You know what? I totally missed that this is in the Race Guide playtest. For some reason, I thought it was in homebrew.
I'll grab the playtest rules and see what I can come up with using those, then. My apologies for the misunderstanding. :)
They are by definition a magical Beast since if an animal as an Int better than 3 then it becomes a magical beast. With that being said remember there lack of hands and humaniod frame is a disadvantage so put that in there weaknesses catagory and if you feel they do not get low light vision(and/or darkvision) then add that as extra points subtracted from the cost of the Magical Beast. Well does the Magical Beast cost you say well ask people on the board what think it should be.
Cutie marks are supposed to represent something that is central to the pony's identity. I think a skill focus is kind-of boring... I think that if I was actually writing a pony themed adventure, then the cutie mark would grant some sort of major benefit with a narrow scope.
Maybe something like a 1 hero per day to be used in the pursuit of your calling. Or maybe +3 to any skill used while pursuing their calling. I think the best way would be to come up with a custom ability for each player :)
The unicorn pony write-up already involves the cutie mark in what they can use telekinesis on.
I think what we need to be doing is writing up Alicorns as deities with portfolios.
I agree on this. As a shorthand I'd go with Celestia as Sarenrae (Iomedae might work too, as she's the LG goddess of rulership... but 'Tia is big on forgiveness like Sarenrae, and the healing-and-sunlight connection is obvious); Luna as Desna (they're both nigh goddesses!), though from what we've seen Luna may well be a somewhat stiffnecked LG and have Nobility in place of Liberation; and maybe Zon-Kuthon's domains for Nightmare Moon? They are both deities of darkness, envy, pain, and loss, after all, though NMM is never gonna go cenobite pony. Either that or NMM as a Daemonic harbinger -- if she'd won, the show's creator said that she would have killed everything in Equestria with her eternal night.