AntediluvianXIII
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Are the planets 'to scale' in the illustration? I only ask because I am preparing Spelljammer style setting information. Also, what size is Golarion, even the AD&D sourcebooks are vague on planet size, unless I've overlooked it! They don't even give hints to the size of Krynn or Toril compared to Earth, even though they are 'Earth style planets'
Any guidance much appreciated. It's only being done because I know at least one of my players will search this information in character as the setting unfolds.
If there are any Spelljammer vets out there that could suggest a planet size for Golarion and I can wing it for the other planet sizes :D
I'm thinking size D or E for Golarion, then sizing the Sun as H
| KaeYoss |
Paizo folks (like James) have stated in the past that Golarion is basically identical to Earth in most respects in order to keep the basic physical rules like gravity, length of days/months/years, etc. the same.
The way I heard it, Golarion is a lot bigger than Earth - and if rules like gravity, length of days/month/years come and complain when the day still has 24 hours and all that, they can complain to Nethys. Do you know what Nethys does to complainers?
Neither do I - they're never heard from again...
Sueda
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Found the post I was thinking of from James:
As for why Golarion has to be the same size of Earth... that's because we don't have enough geologists, astronomers, historians, meteorologists, cartographers, geographers, sociologists, and other "-ists" on staff to make sure that if we set our campaign on a world that's drastically different in size or nature than Earth that we get things right. This is also why regions in Golarion sort of match up to regions on Earth; europe and the middle east and africa more or less correspond to Avistan and Qadira and Garund, for example.
By assuming earthlike weather, earthlike gravity, earthlike shape, and all the other earthlike features, we can turn our attention away from that kind of minutae and focus on telling stories. This is the exact same reason why humans are the dominant species on the planet; we all know how humans work and therefore we don't have to re-figure out what happens to a society if, say, the baseline race can breathe water or doesn't sleep or can fly or doesn't need to eat.
By assuming Golarion's basically the same as earth, we save us a LOT of headache on keeping canon right.
AntediluvianXIII
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Chees guys! THB I was thinking Golarion was the same size as Earth, I just needed confirmation. As for distances, I'm copying the info from page 90 of 'Concordance...' of our Solar System rather than making it up to save time..
I reckon if i make Golarion size D it gives me 'room' (like i need to make room in space lol) to figure out the other planets sizes!!
James Jacobs
Creative Director
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Are the planets 'to scale' in the illustration? I only ask because I am preparing Spelljammer style setting information. Also, what size is Golarion, even the AD&D sourcebooks are vague on planet size, unless I've overlooked it! They don't even give hints to the size of Krynn or Toril compared to Earth, even though they are 'Earth style planets'
Any guidance much appreciated. It's only being done because I know at least one of my players will search this information in character as the setting unfolds.
If there are any Spelljammer vets out there that could suggest a planet size for Golarion and I can wing it for the other planet sizes :D
I'm thinking size D or E for Golarion, then sizing the Sun as H
Nope; the planetary map is in no way to scale. The sizes are distorted so you can see at least SOME detail, but the actual sizes are a lot different, as is the orbital distances between each.
Golarion itself is indeed the same size of Earth. Mostly because I'm not smart enough to know how changing a planet's size would impact plate tectonics, tides, moutnain formation, weather, gravity (and thus falling damage), weight, horizons, axial tilt, magnetic north, passage of time, and so on and so on. By keeping the planet the same size as Earth, I can build upon a few thousand years of research into how things work on a planet that size. I can go to wikipedia to find out how far north you have to go before you hit the artctic circle. I have a good idea how deep the crust is for doing stuff about the Darklands. I can use a normal real-world calendar to track days in a campaign. Etc.
That said, the other planets are all different sizes. The map in the Inner Sea World Guide gives you a basic idea of which ones are larger and which ones are smaller, but as for exact sizes... that info is still baking in the Paizo oven.
| thunderspirit |
James Jacobs wrote:... that info is still baking in the Paizo oven.I should warn you all: it's an Easy-Bake Oven, and we were forced to replace the incandescent bulb with a compact fluorescent, so it may take a while.
Darn environmentalists taking away all our fun... ;-)
AntediluvianXIII
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AntediluvianXIII wrote:Are the planets 'to scale' in the illustration? I only ask because I am preparing Spelljammer style setting information. Also, what size is Golarion, even the AD&D sourcebooks are vague on planet size, unless I've overlooked it! They don't even give hints to the size of Krynn or Toril compared to Earth, even though they are 'Earth style planets'
Any guidance much appreciated. It's only being done because I know at least one of my players will search this information in character as the setting unfolds.
If there are any Spelljammer vets out there that could suggest a planet size for Golarion and I can wing it for the other planet sizes :D
I'm thinking size D or E for Golarion, then sizing the Sun as H
Nope; the planetary map is in no way to scale. The sizes are distorted so you can see at least SOME detail, but the actual sizes are a lot different, as is the orbital distances between each.
Golarion itself is indeed the same size of Earth. Mostly because I'm not smart enough to know how changing a planet's size would impact plate tectonics, tides, moutnain formation, weather, gravity (and thus falling damage), weight, horizons, axial tilt, magnetic north, passage of time, and so on and so on. By keeping the planet the same size as Earth, I can build upon a few thousand years of research into how things work on a planet that size. I can go to wikipedia to find out how far north you have to go before you hit the artctic circle. I have a good idea how deep the crust is for doing stuff about the Darklands. I can use a normal real-world calendar to track days in a campaign. Etc.
That said, the other planets are all different sizes. The map in the Inner Sea World Guide gives you a basic idea of which ones are larger and which ones are smaller, but as for exact sizes... that info is still baking in the Paizo oven.
Golarion is the same size as Earth, right? Hmmm....Liavara has rings, looks familiar! and Bretheda looks like a similar planet with many moons in our system....basically I've made Liavara the same size as Saturn and Bretheda the same size as Jupiter
I went here for help:
http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/planets/profile.cfm?Object=SolarSys
http://s23.org/wiki/Solar_system
AntediluvianXIII
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I wonder if you can get a convection oven from "QVC" or "As Seen On TV"
I really would LIKE to have a space based AP or setting info to use as a basis for a campaign.
You're more than welcome to have a copy of the planetary travel times that I devised using the info in Spelljammer based on our own system - it's not perfect and there is only error for Closest/Farthest approach. I basically correct it by saying it's the difference of having elliptical not circular orbits.
I was only starting the basic stuff for peace of mind, but it's actually resulted in me reading the Spelljammer stuff for ideas....but no Space Hippos or Giant Space Hamsters :D