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This had me rolling.

The Ballad of Jean Luc Picard

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Preston Poulter wrote:

This had me rolling.

The Ballad of Jean Luc Picard

Its ironic, because the "Chain of Command" episode that the thread title refers to is anything but funny.


Most episodes of any version of Trek took itself way to serious.

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The Crimson Jester, Rogue Lord wrote:
Most episodes of any version of Trek took itself way to serious.

True. But the Original Series was better about this then the following serieses.


Lord Fyre wrote:
The Crimson Jester, Rogue Lord wrote:
Most episodes of any version of Trek took itself way to serious.
True. But the Original Series was better about this then the following serieses.

Yes, I wonder if it had lasted say another two seasons and if Roddenberry had stayed on how much better it would have been.

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The Crimson Jester, Rogue Lord wrote:
Lord Fyre wrote:
The Crimson Jester, Rogue Lord wrote:
Most episodes of any version of Trek took itself way to serious.
True. But the Original Series was better about this then the following serieses.
Yes, I wonder if it had lasted say another two seasons and if Roddenberry had stayed on how much better it would have been.

That is a good question.

But do note that, by the time of The Next Generation, Roddenberry actually became harmful to the series. TV Tropes Warning

  • Mary Suetopia
  • The Wesley
  • The Roddenberry Line
    These problems come directly from Gene Roddenberry, so it is hard to say.

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    Meh. They should have just titled that episode 1984 and given Orwell a writing credit.

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    Kthulhu wrote:
    Meh. They should have just titled that episode 1984 and given Orwell a writing credit.

    True.

    And they might have wanted to reconsider having a Star Ship Captain, and not a Covert Operations Specialist, be the individual captured and interrogated.

    Of course, Star Trek was never good about having appropriate characters be in the situations that the show needed.
    [i.e., why does the entire command crew go on every away mission? What are the other 400+ people on the ship for?]

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    Lord Fyre wrote:
    why does the entire command crew go on every away mission?

    That even occasionally extended to the usually vastly superior Babylon 5. It pissed me off the few times that Sheridan gave command of the station over to Delenn. If Ivanova wasn't there, command should have gone to Lt. Corwin. Delenn was an ambassador, and should NOT have been in the rank structure (especially seeing as how she was not only not in Earthforce, but not even human). At least that's the worst it got...other than Delenn, nobody was ever put in charge of the station solely because they were a main character. Whereas that's a pretty common occurance in Trek.

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    Kthulhu wrote:
    Lord Fyre wrote:
    why does the entire command crew go on every away mission?
    That even occasionally extended to the usually vastly superior Babylon 5. It pissed me off the few times that Sheridan gave command of the station over to Delenn. If Ivanova wasn't there, command should have gone to Lt. Corwin. Delenn was an ambassador, and should NOT have been in the rank structure (especially seeing as how she was not only not in Earthforce, but not even human). At least that's the worst it got...other than Delenn, nobody was ever put in charge of the station solely because they were a main character. Whereas that's a pretty common occurance in Trek.

    Of course, the other obvious solution to this problem never occurred to the writers of Star Trek. On a ship of 40 people, it does not strain credibility so badly for members of the command crew to be so involved in all these situations.

    But, on the HUGE ships that the series focused on, this is a big logical problem.


    Kthulhu wrote:
    Lord Fyre wrote:
    why does the entire command crew go on every away mission?
    That even occasionally extended to the usually vastly superior Babylon 5. It pissed me off the few times that Sheridan gave command of the station over to Delenn. If Ivanova wasn't there, command should have gone to Lt. Corwin. Delenn was an ambassador, and should NOT have been in the rank structure (especially seeing as how she was not only not in Earthforce, but not even human). At least that's the worst it got...other than Delenn, nobody was ever put in charge of the station solely because they were a main character. Whereas that's a pretty common occurance in Trek.

    Delenn was only put in charge after B5 declared independence from the Earth Alliance and Delenn was forced out of the Grey Counsel. It's true that Delenn should have only been an advisor to Lt. Corwin but then on a military station of a quarter million people there should have been a command staff of hundreds with several of them having the rank of Commander or Lt. Commander that Sheridan could have been put in charge of the station.

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