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Now don't get me wrong, I like Gming. I wouldn't Gm if i didn't like Gming.
I was wondering what other GM's think of this idea.
For me a major perk is being able to reward a "GM" credit to one of my PCs.
How about allowing a GM to give a "GM" credtit to one of his player characters every time he GMs instead of just once?
How about relaxing the rule that a PC can only run and adventure once, for the purpose of awarding GM credit. So that a GM's PC can have say the Pallid plague record sheet two or three times in his character record. SImply have him Write GM credit on top of the record sheets that are GM credtt.
What do you think of this idea? Good? Bad?
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Now don't get me wrong, I like Gming. I wouldn't Gm if i didn't like Gming.
I was wondering what other GM's think of this idea.
For me a major perk is being able to reward a "GM" credit to one of my PCs.
How about allowing a GM to give a "GM" credtit to one of his player characters every time he GMs instead of just once?
How about relaxing the rule that a PC can only run and adventure once, for the purpose of awarding GM credit. So that a GM's PC can have say the Pallid plague record sheet two or three times in his character record. SImply have him Write GM credit on top of the record sheets that are GM credtt.
What do you think of this idea? Good? Bad?
I generally like the GM rewards but I feel this is way overboard. Being able to get GM credit the first time you ever run a module is more than enough of a perk IMHO.
I would be against any system that gave GM credit to more than one character, and I would be vehemently opposed to a system where one GM character could have credit for one adventure multiple times.
I can't give you a hard specific on why this is so objectionable, other than to say I feel it would be completely inappropriate.
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I'm neutral to this, but I'm not sure if this is a great perk or not. By running the same game over and over again, your limiting yourself to all the different items you can buy since differant senarios offer different loot.
Argueably perhaps there should be rewards for the amount of stars you have or amount of games you have run.
Mr. Slanky brings up a good point too. After all playing the game is a large reward in and of itself too.
Only time can tell.
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I think my feelings on this matter have been established and don't need to be revisited. I think the more important question is how can Paizo encourage members who live in "low gamer population" regions without turning off members who live in "high gamer population" regions. I don't begrudge those who only want to progress faster because they don't get many play opportunities, but I don't want to taint the accomplishments of those who have struggled to reach the high tiers by conventional means.
I do not plan to relax the replay rule any more than it is relaxed. I can't ever imagine a time where a single PC would have two or more chronicles from the same scenario in his record. It breaks the verisimilitude just a bit too much for me.
I think I mentioned this months ago in another thread similar to this one, but the most I could see ever working is if a GM could get credit for each sub-tier of a scenario. In other words, if a GM were to run both sub-tiers of a tier 1-5, 5-9 or 7-11 scenario, then two different characters could be given a chronicle sheet or if he runs all three sub-tiers of a 1-7, then three different characters could get chronicle sheets. For a GM that rarely ever gets to play, having a high-level, a mid-level, and a low-level character by way of this would be nice.
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Thank you all for taking the time to answer my post.
At home in Vermont in my local gaming store, we play Pathfinder, and we usually try to run either an adventure path, or play a home brewed game.
I played my first Pathfinder society game last November at a convention in Vermont called Carnage on the mountain. I had allot of fun, and I managed to squeeze 8 gaming sessions into one weekend. I didn’t expect to play any more Pathfinder Society organized play until next November when I went back to the Carnage on the Mountain Convention in Vermont. I had a 3rd level character I was happy with (2 levels of cleric 1 level of wizard)
This last February I found myself in Durham NC. I only expected to be here for three months. I wanted to play some Pathfinder, but I didn’t feel I would be here long enough to join a home game. Luckily in March I was able to find a good pathfinder society organized play group here. Since I didn’t know how long I was going to be here in Durham. I felt the Pathfinder society would be perfect for me. There is a wonderful group of people here. Over the last four months, three months longer then I was expecting to stay, I have had allot of fun playing. I have even begun to GM here as well. We run two games a week here at the local gaming store called Game Theory in Raleigh NC. They run an excellent gaming story by the way. My third level character I arrived with I have worked up to 10 level as a mystic-theurge. I have also built up a 4th level inquisitor and 2nd level cleric. Yesterday, I had allot of fun playing in the first scenario sent in Kaer Maga.
When I do eventually go home to Vermont, I am planning to run the idea of running a Pathfinder organized play game at the local gaming store, in Keene NH, called Toy City. Who knows my friends there might like the idea.
I thought that the GM credit was a very nice perk and that it might be nice to extend that perk beyond a one time credit to a credit each time you GM.
I had only suggested the “relaxing” of the playing the scenario again rule, for GM credits, because it would allow me to have my cake and eat it too. Usually I try to do the best I can to run a scenario that no one else has played at a table I am running. I expect to be running more low level scenarios, and to begin running some of the same scenarios more then once. I just thought that it wouldn’t be ruining anyone’s game, by giving anything away if a character had two GM credit “pallid Plague” chronicle sheets in their notebook..
Thank you all for taking the time to respond to my suggestion with your thoughts.
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I can't ever imagine a time where a single PC would have two or more chronicles from the same scenario in his record.
Joshua, he's not talking about a single PC having two or more of the same chronicle sheets. He's talking about having one for when his mystic-theurge played the scenario, one for his inquisitor (GM credit), and one for his cleric (2nd GM credit). I think that is his suggestion.
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I can't ever imagine a time where a single PC would have two or more chronicles from the same scenario in his record.Joshua, he's not talking about a single PC having two or more of the same chronicle sheets. He's talking about having one for when his mystic-theurge played the scenario, one for his inquisitor (GM credit), and one for his cleric (2nd GM credit). I think that is his suggestion.
That was my understanding when Myles & I discussed this on Monday.
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For small home groups with limited GMs and players, I see how GM rewards make sense. You can take turns GMing w/o characters "falling behind" everyone else you like to game with. Simple enough.
What I don't understand is the appeal of gaining XP toward a character for GMing when there is a larger (read: medium sized) pool of players and GMs.
You only get to play your character about 33 times before they retire. Finished. Unplayable for ever and ever. Why not savor what little time you have with these characters?
With the idea that you can get GM credit every time you GM a scenario, Douglas over there would have six, count'em SIX level TWELVE characters that he couldn't even play. What fun is that?
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Alright, I’ve been trolling this thread for a while now and thought I would throw in my 2 cents. (Not sure if it is actually worth that.)
A little background, I’m one of those “limited” player/GM. I have to travel a minimum of 70 miles one-way to play/GM PFS and I am lucky if I get 5 players to show up. Because of the distance traveled and other personal reasons, I usually only get one weekend organized a month. I do have two players that also GM, but if I were to add up everything, I believe that I have probably GM’d two-thirds of the scenarios thus far. I also played Living Greyhawk with a similar group and it was always frustrating when your turn to DM came up and you missed out on part of a series or that one item that would have been perfect for your character.
Having said all that, I am very grateful to JFrost for the current GM reward system. Anything more relaxed/giving would be too much. The current system allows me to keep at least one character at the same level as my players. As one of the players/GM’s that the current system was designed for, I cannot see the rewards to be any more giving. On the contrary, I would like to make the suggestion that the reigns be tightened even more. I suggest that the GM only be allowed to take one (1) PA instead of full. I’ve noticed with my GM character that I have a lot of PA and am probably well above the curve.
Like I said, just my 2cp.
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Steve, Joe, thank you both for posting. You are right, what I originally talked with you was about was getting a GM credit every time you GM, and being able to give a credit to a different PC when I Gmed.
I realized, that, when you are trying to run an adventure that no one at the table has played, you might often end up running the same adventure time and again. Particularly if it is a low level adventure. The advantage of this is that you are familiar with the adventure. But you might end up with a stream of first level characters if you cant double up with your chronicle sheets. So i thought of suggesting something further. I thought it wouldn’t hurt anything to allow you to double a chronicle sheet on a character for GM credit only, thus allowing you to get credit, while running a game multiple times. You afterall are not spoiling the game nor giving anything away to anyone. Writing Gm credit I thought was a simple way to differentiate the experience your characters has.
MisterSlanky, Herald, Doug Doug, Joshua J.Frost, Enevhar Aldarion, Jason S., Kyle Baid, and Shieldknight thank for your opinions.
Kyle Baird I appreciate you taking a look at small and larger groups. I am impressed, in the two years Doug, Doug has been Gming Pathfinder organized play, he has Gmed 198 games. That is impressive. That is allot for two years.. However, just as he could have six 12 level characters he could also have 12 six level characters.
The discussion is moot. The majority opinion’s that have been expressed say that this idea of giving a GM credit to a character each time you GM, and allowing you to only apply a GM credit for a particular scenario to a character more then once, is too much. Perhaps a credit for every time you GM. well maybe people think that is too much as well.
Thank you for taking the time to respond.
I have been considering running a Pathfinder society game at my local gaming store Toy CIty in Keene NH when I get back to Vermont. I suppose it does not really matter. I realize my friends and players will ultimately decide if we play a home grown pathfinder game, run an adventure arc, like Cures of the Crimson Throne, (We only got through the “escape from Old Korvosa”; or we might give Pathfinder organized play a try. Who knows, they might want to play another system entirely. Durning my absence, they have been trying other systems. Anyways this is all about getting together with your friends and having fun regardless of the system.