Ranga vs Mad Monk: Australia Decides


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A thread for the Australian National Elections 2010.

Three days into the election campaign and I can’t believe we have to put up with another month of this crap.

My vote: Greens --> Independent --> Labour --> Liberal --> Whatever party Fred Nile is associated with.


Your lucky its only for a few months, in the US it lasts over a year leading up to Presidential elections and about 8-9 months for national elections.

The Exchange

Dementrius wrote:

A thread for the Australian National Elections 2010.

Three days into the election campaign and I can’t believe we have to put up with another month of this crap.

My vote: Greens --> Independent --> Labour --> Liberal --> Whatever party Fred Nile is associated with.

Who are Ranga and Mad Monk? All I have is the Front Page Picture where the Witchqueen of Thuringia gives a Nazi Salute to her loyal troops as her U-boat sinks another refugee boat.

Scarab Sages

You are joking about the Greens!

They are lunatics and will drive our country into ruin! :)

I had never voted Labour in my life until Kevin 07 came along. I am not support a party that turns on their own... Great we have a woman Prime Minister but after what happen with Kevin I realise why I never voted Labour and never will again. And this from a man who grew up in an old railway town.


Dem: it looks like we vote a similar way.

Xab: American democracy has a tendency toward the excessive. In Australia if the politicians thought that they were so important that they deserved a years worth of grandstanding and self aggrandisement they would be lynched for being full of themselves.

YD: Howard was no better. The funny thing is most illegals come by plane and the majority are from England.

Masika: Kev did it to himself he sidelined his team and tried to run the show alone. People are going to get pissed off when their talents are ignored. It wasn't the Labor government it was the Kevin Rudd government. Don't get me wrong Rudd sits in my Pantheon of Australia's best prime-ministers Curtin, Whitlam, Keating and Rudd

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The 8th Dwarf wrote:


Dem: it looks like we vote a similar way.

Xab: American democracy has a tendency toward the excessive. In Australia if the politicians thought that they were so important that they deserved a years worth of grandstanding and self aggrandisement they would be lynched for being full of themselves.

YD: Howard was no better. The funny thing is most illegals come by plane and the majority are from England.

Masika: Kev did it to himself he sidelined his team and tried to run the show alone. People are going to get pissed off when their talents are ignored. It wasn't the Labor government it was the Kevin Rudd government. Don't get me wrong Rudd sits in my Pantheon of Australia's best prime-ministers Curtin, Whitlam, Keating and Rudd

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It doesn't help that I live in the bluest of Blue-Ribbon seats, so all I'm doing is reducing Phillip Ruddock's margin of victory. I have no problem with voting for the "crazy Greens" if it means that one of our two right-wing parties gets the hint (and I don't particularly care which one).

Our shorter election campaigns are more driven by their non-fixed nature. Everyone in the U.S. knows when the election is going to be and can prepare for it. In Australia the incumbents get to announce an election at any time within 3 years. *Surpirse!*

I've never actually understood why ~60 people a month arriving by boat is at all an issue. Quick man the barricades! Seriously, just give them all jobs with Fortiscue or BHP (they seem to be running the show now) and save ourselves millions of dollars per year in exporting misery to Third World island nations.

As for the Rudd vs Gillard change of leadership; the Labour party was hemorrhaging badly and they needed a quick boost in the polls because the election was coming up. They tried a broad range of policy reforms (of which, I personally think, most were OK) and got beaten around the head for not returning perfect results. Now both parties are campaigning on “steady as she goes” platforms and people are complaining neither side has “vision”. Guess what? We had a government with “vision” and they got stomped on by the media and popular opinion. Understandably both parties are not lining up for that type of kicking again.

It is a reminder to all us voters that a government’s job is to remain in government first and govern well second. Kinda like the way you don’t make a character with cool role-playing opportunities that is mechanically dreadful because role-playing a corpse is not much fun.

Shadow Lodge

Ranga versus Mad Monk is so apt. Had to laugh at that one.

Being in small business, I normally go on the conservative side of things so Dementrius we are unfortuantely on opposite sides of the political fence.

I can understand that voting for the greens is like a protest vote against the two major parties and in some ways deservedly so - I'm not too sure we're going to get a great prime minister out of either of the two major parties.

I've never been a fan of voting independent though as you generally have little idea of what they stand for aside from on one particular issue. You either get some dope-fuelled talentless dropkick looking for cheap access to a parlimentarian's superannuation scheme or you end up with divisive brainless idiots like Pauline Hanson who think the way out of debt is printing more money.

As much as I don't like him, I think Peter Costello might have been the best leader for the country - instead as you say, we're either getting Ranga or Mad Monk. Gillard is going to be the same bus but different driver regardles of what the labor spin machine is trying to forcefeed us where as Abbott has committed the mortal political sin of choosing budgie smugglers over boardies. Sometimes he just says or does things that are so politically stupid - and because of that, I think the Ranga will eat him for breakfast.

Hmmm... at least us NSW people get to get rid of the most incompetent state government Australia's ever seen next year. Have to wait a few more years for the federeal buffoons though.

Best Regards
Herremann the Wise

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Herremann the Wise wrote:

Ranga versus Mad Monk is so apt. Had to laugh at that one.

Being in small business, I normally go on the conservative side of things so Dementrius we are unfortuantely on opposite sides of the political fence.

I can understand that voting for the greens is like a protest vote against the two major parties and in some ways deservedly so - I'm not too sure we're going to get a great prime minister out of either of the two major parties.

I've never been a fan of voting independent though as you generally have little idea of what they stand for aside from on one particular issue. You either get some dope-fuelled talentless dropkick looking for cheap access to a parlimentarian's superannuation scheme or you end up with divisive brainless idiots like Pauline Hanson who think the way out of debt is printing more money.

As much as I don't like him, I think Peter Costello might have been the best leader for the country - instead as you say, we're either getting Ranga or Mad Monk. Gillard is going to be the same bus but different driver regardles of what the labor spin machine is trying to forcefeed us where as Abbott has committed the mortal political sin of choosing budgie smugglers over boardies. Sometimes he just says or does things that are so politically stupid - and because of that, I think the Ranga will eat him for breakfast.

Hmmm... at least us NSW people get to get rid of the most incompetent state government Australia's ever seen next year. Have to wait a few more years for the federeal buffoons though.

Best Regards
Herremann the Wise

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I don't really see it as a fence - more as a paddock where you get to roam around. I was actually pretty keen on Malcolm Turnbull's moderate views and reasonable nature (for a politician). Unfortunately he had a party of hacks who knifed him. Sounds familiar somehow.

As for Greens and Independents, I would prefer to rattle some cages than just blithely accept the mediocrity that we get from our major parties. *RATTLE*.

I agree that the NSW State government is a stinking morass of corruption and incompetence. Unfortunately I can't see the opposition doing any better.

Maybe just lessening the rate at which things are getting worse...

Maybe...

But only on Tuesdays...

After about 4:30pm...

Shadow Lodge

Dementrius wrote:

I don't really see it as a fence - more as a paddock where you get to roam around. I was actually pretty keen on Malcolm Turnbull's moderate views and reasonable nature (for a politician). Unfortunately he had a party of hacks who knifed him. Sounds familiar somehow.

As for Greens and Independents, I would prefer to rattle some cages than just blithely accept the mediocrity that we get from our major parties *RATTLE*.

I agree that the NSW State government is a stinking morass of corruption and incompetence. Unfortunately I can't see the opposition doing any better.

Maybe just lessening the rate at which things are getting worse...

Maybe...

But only on Tuesdays...

After about 4:30pm...

A paddock yes!

While the future State Liberal government of NSW may not be the most articulate, skilled or relevant government we've ever had, it will take them at least twenty years in office to reach the squabbling ineptitude of the current one.

Best Regards
Herremann the Wise


For the NSW state election I cant vote Labor because they are useless and or corrupt and I cant vote Liberal (Conservatives of our US friends)as they are owned by Christian Far Right.

I think for NSW state election the Greens should run with the following campaign. "Try something different and vote in a third party, we cant screw the State any worse then the other parties"

For the federal election Mme Guillotine will take the Mad Monks head and hold it before the crowd in triumph.

Tony Abbot being the Neanderthal that he is - women should be in the home and no sex before marriage (Which very hypocritical of him - remember the love child episode), has a real problem with debating Julia Gillard and it will show.

Tony will make some major gaffes before the end of the campaign and sink himself.

This quote will get him and the Labor adds will run.

"I wont reintroduce work choices" .... "Not everything I say is the gospel truth".

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