NBA fines Cavaliers owner for remarks on LeBron James
I do not know the full story, so I must be missing something. I do not understand why the NBA felt they need to fine the owner. I mean, in my opinion, the owner made a fool of himself…but when did that become a finable offense? Did he use racial slurs? He got pissy because he lost a 'good' player and went on a tirade. O.k., so you issue a statement saying you think the remarks are a bit extreme. But a fine? Really?
And isn't that about all they do when a player gets popped for illegal substances? Where the hell are this country's priorities?
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NBA fines Cavaliers owner for remarks on LeBron James
I do not know the full story, so I must be missing something. I do not understand why the NBA felt they need to fine the owner. I mean, in my opinion, the owner made a fool of himself…but when did that become a finable offense? Did he use racial slurs? He got pissy because he lost a 'good' player and went on a tirade. O.k., so you issue a statement saying you think the remarks are a bit extreme. But a fine? Really?
And isn't that about all they do when a player gets popped for illegal substances? Where the hell are this country's priorities?
Well, the NBA is in the business of taking care of the NBA. It isn't their job to worry about anything else.
And, no, when players get popped for dope, they get suspended, which, even at the veteran's minimum, winds up costing them quite a bit of jack. On top of the fine levied by the league. And if they get popped too many times, they lose their hookup to the gravy train.
And, frankly, the dude did more than make a jackass out of himself, he questioned the integrity of the entire free agency process.
Now, if the owner really wanted to b!&$@ about something, he should have b@*@&ed about Ohio and Cleveland making an environment that makes picking up the type of players that could have helped Lebron achieve his career goals in his home town next to impossible. That Lebron left nearly $30 million on the table to leave town should tell you something about Cleveland. No one wants to be there.
Furthermore, the owner basically stopped just short of calling Lebron an ungrateful [slur deleted]. He really showed what a shallow punk he was. All over a situation where the player was well within his rights to go someplace he thought gave him a better chance to win a championship. Stern had no choice but to put him in check.
Owner - Johnny Scott Comics and Games
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And, frankly, the dude did more than make a jackass out of himself, he questioned the integrity of the entire free agency process.
This made me laugh. "Integrity" and "Free Agency" don't generally coexist. It's all about the high bidder.
Now, if the owner really wanted to b%&*# about something, he should have b%&*#ed about Ohio and Cleveland making an environment that makes picking up the type of players that could have helped Lebron achieve his career goals in his home town next to impossible. That Lebron left nearly $30 million on the table to leave town should tell you something about Cleveland. No one wants to be there.
Hey! Cleveland ROCKS, dude! All right. Maybe we have some issues - poor economy, poor job outlook - but it's actually a really nice place to live - world class orchestra, Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame, major sports teams, Lake Erie, and a ton of ethnic diversity throughout Northeast Ohio. We get a bad rap that is largely undeserved.
Furthermore, the owner basically stopped just short of calling Lebron an ungrateful [slur deleted]. He really showed what a shallow punk he was. All over a situation where the player was well within his rights to go someplace he thought gave him a better chance to win a championship. Stern had no choice but to put him in check.
Well, Lebron also did a good job of showing what a "shallow punk" he was with all of the hype leading up to his decision and the hour long special on ESPN. This all could have been avoided with a simple phone call giving the Cavs a heads up, and a short press conference announcing his decision. Instead, he went for the glitz, and lost a bit of his previously untarnished image.
Thanks for clearing it up for me HD. I do not follow basketball and it just sounded like the Cleveland owner was bitter he did not get his way.
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This made me laugh. "Integrity" and "Free Agency" don't generally coexist. It's all about the high bidder.
Um, Lebron left nearly $30 million dollars on the table to leave. Nice try.
Hey! Cleveland ROCKS, dude! All right. Maybe we have some issues - poor economy, poor job outlook - but it's actually a really nice place to live - world class orchestra, Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame, major sports teams, Lake Erie, and a ton of ethnic diversity throughout Northeast Ohio. We get a bad rap that is largely undeserved.
Three sports franchises that cannot attract a free agent of note to save their lives, all of which have poor ownership. Fixing up the flats doesn't a great city make, being near Lake Erie means jack all, frankly. Not exactly a selling point. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? Meh. The Orchestra is pretty good, I'll give you that, but I have more ethnic diversity in my apartment complex here in Houston than the entire city of Cleveland, sorry. Oh, and even though it was long ago, y'all set a freaking RIVER on fire.
The poor economy, poor job outlook and your stupid city income tax are all reasons no one in their right mind moves to Cleveland. Bad rap WELL deserved. Your city leads the nation in population loss, after all.
Well, Lebron also did a good job of showing what a "shallow punk" he was with all of the hype leading up to his decision and the hour long special on ESPN. This all could have been avoided with a simple phone call giving the Cavs a heads up, and a short press conference announcing his decision. Instead, he went for the glitz, and lost a bit of his previously untarnished image.
Lebron saw a chance to make some news during a very slow sports news time, and made millions for the Boys and Girls Clubs of America. Yeah, shallow punk. Y'all just need to get over it. Decades of bad decisions politically, economically and by the franchise owners of your local teams continue to earn your city's unofficial title: The Mistake by the Lake.
And, again, he left MILLIONS on the table. It isn't about the money, it's about winning, and that's all you can ask for from an athlete. He was never going to win there, there's nothing about Cleveland to attract the talent he'd need to achieve is goal of winning an NBA championship. He owes Cleveland nothing, y'all should just be thankful that for five years, y'all were relevant for the first time since Jim Brown retired.
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This made me laugh. "Integrity" and "Free Agency" don't generally coexist. It's all about the high bidder.Um, Lebron left nearly $30 million dollars on the table to leave. Nice try.
Hey! Cleveland ROCKS, dude! All right. Maybe we have some issues - poor economy, poor job outlook - but it's actually a really nice place to live - world class orchestra, Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame, major sports teams, Lake Erie, and a ton of ethnic diversity throughout Northeast Ohio. We get a bad rap that is largely undeserved.Three sports franchises that cannot attract a free agent of note to save their lives, all of which have poor ownership. Fixing up the flats doesn't a great city make, being near Lake Erie means jack all, frankly. Not exactly a selling point. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? Meh. The Orchestra is pretty good, I'll give you that, but I have more ethnic diversity in my apartment complex here in Houston than the entire city of Cleveland, sorry. Oh, and even though it was long ago, y'all set a freaking RIVER on fire.
The poor economy, poor job outlook and your stupid city income tax are all reasons no one in their right mind moves to Cleveland. Bad rap WELL deserved. Your city leads the nation in population loss, after all.
Well, Lebron also did a good job of showing what a "shallow punk" he was with all of the hype leading up to his decision and the hour long special on ESPN. This all could have been avoided with a simple phone call giving the Cavs a heads up, and a short press conference announcing his decision. Instead, he went for the glitz, and lost a bit of his previously untarnished image.Lebron saw a chance to make some news during a very slow sports news time, and made millions for the Boys and Girls Clubs of America. Yeah, shallow punk. Y'all just need to get over it. Decades of bad decisions politically, economically and by the franchise owners of your local teams continue to earn your...
Wow. You must really hate Cleveland. Did it eat your puppy when you were a kid or something? Care to kick my home town some more? Please? We really need someone to pile on, as we don't have it bad enough these days...
BTW, many of your comments are incorrect (Flats, ethnicity, etc.), but I don't want to get into a flame war over it. Let's just agree to disagree.
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Yeah, I thought Lebron was completely justified to leave for whatever reasons he had but the way he did it, that was a lame way to ditch your hometown.It wasn't the best way, but a lot of kids will benefit from it. Cleveland needs to stop being so selfish over this.
Meh, good for them for getting the money, too bad it sets a bad example for the kids.
(For the record, I'm not from Cleveland... thank goodness)
Jack you changed your avatar...that's kinda wrong man
Jack you changed your avatar...that's kinda wrong manI thought I'd shake things up a little. What's wrong with the brain in a jar?
Brain.
In a jar.
Jack you changed your avatar...that's kinda wrong manI thought I'd shake things up a little. What's wrong with the brain in a jar?
I really need a better monitor and better eyes as I thought it was a flask with some type of emblem on it.
What I don't like about the whole deal was it seemed the big three (Lebron, Bosh and Wade) already had this plan in motion for a while. Bosh let slip in an interview that they were planning this for months...corrected himself and said days. Why make the six teams gunning for these guys run through hoops(pun intended) when they already had their decision made? And it is plainly obvious they did, given their camaraderie on the US Olympic basketball team. Why the big holdout from Lebron when he obviously knew long before and then hold a special regarding his decison? These guys need that much of an ego trip to make the teams dance to the big three's strings? It kind of sickens me in a way. In regard to LeBron leaving Cleveland, sure, it's his decision. But Larry Lichman is right, it certainly tarnished Lebron in my eyes, not that I was a fan of his to begin with. Highly overrated, he gave up in the Boston playoff series. You would have never seen Michael Jordan do that. Jordan put his team on his shoulders and turned them into a dynasty. Lebron....'nuff said.
Good quote out of Planet Money on this "...Gilbert did the equivalent of yelling 'I faked all my orgasms' after the breakup..."
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What I don't like about the whole deal was it seemed the big three (Lebron, Bosh and Wade) already had this plan in motion for a while. Bosh let slip in an interview that they were planning this for months...corrected himself and said days. Why make the six teams gunning for these guys run through hoops(pun intended) when they already had their decision made? And it is plainly obvious they did, given their camaraderie on the US Olympic basketball team. Why the big holdout from Lebron when he obviously knew long before and then hold a special regarding his decison? These guys need that much of an ego trip to make the teams dance to the big three's strings? It kind of sickens me in a way. In regard to LeBron leaving Cleveland, sure, it's his decision. But Larry Lichman is right, it certainly tarnished Lebron in my eyes, not that I was a fan of his to begin with. Highly overrated, he gave up in the Boston playoff series. You would have never seen Michael Jordan do that. Jordan put his team on his shoulders and turned them into a dynasty. Lebron....'nuff said.
First off, Lebron didn't "hold out". He wasn't under contract.
Second, Cleveland gave up on Lebron long before he did them. No major free agent signings in the eight years he was there. None. Lot's of support there, guys.
Yeah, those first seven years in the league when Jordan had Cleveland talent around him in Chicago, those were some exciting championship years for the Bulls, huh? Lebron never had his Scottie, or even his Kerr, really. Lebron probably would have been thrilled even to have a post player who could play the boards like Rodman. Shoot, Lebron did something Jordan never did: he single-handedly took the Cavs to the finals with a roster of CBA players. No, I'm not saying Lebron can even hold a candle to Jordan, but Lebron never had anything close to the talent Jordan had around him during the Bull's two championship runs.
As to Bosh, Wade and Lebron talking, we've known that since the Olympics. No shock to anyone who actually follows the game. I doubt there is a real NBA fan outside of the state of Ohio who thought Lebron was going anywhere but South Florida.
And, yeah, who gives a crap about $5 million dollars for poor kids who need help, make sure that Cleveland doesn't have its feelings hurt.
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Wow. You must really hate Cleveland. Did it eat your puppy when you were a kid or something? Care to kick my home town some more? Please? We really need someone to pile on, as we don't have it bad enough these days...
BTW, many of your comments are incorrect (Flats, ethnicity, etc.), but I don't want to get into a flame war over it. Let's just agree to disagree.
Wait, y'all didn't turn the Flats into a restaurant/club/destination type place? Could have sworn y'all did last time I was in Cleveland...
No offense, but @50k people of non black or white heritage in a city as large as Cleveland (and most of them are Hispanic) does not make Cleveland "ethnically diverse". 88% of your population falls into two ethnic groups.
And, I really wasn't trying to "pile on". You painted a rosy picture of your town, one that doesn't reflect an economic or cultural reality that is causing Cleveland to die a slow death. In ten years, Cleveland is going to be Detroit if the leadership of the place doesn't stop creating an environment hostile to business.
That's just the state of the place, a.k.a. reality.
First off, Lebron didn't "hold out". He wasn't under contract.
I'm not talking Lebron holding out in regards to his contract. I'm talking about waiting for all this hoopla to begin when he obviously knew where he was going way before the free agency date. Why all the sensationalism and waste all the other NBA teams hunting him their money and time? Sickening.
As to Bosh, Wade and Lebron talking, we've known that since the Olympics. No shock to anyone who actually follows the game. I doubt there is a real NBA fan outside of the state of Ohio who thought Lebron was going anywhere but South Florida.
Really?? I have been following this Lebron fiasco since the playoffs and never really knew where he was going. It was only when Bosh joined Wade in Miami that things started to click. A lot of sports experts in the field had no idea either if you were following the sport channels and getting expert predictions.
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First off, Lebron didn't "hold out". He wasn't under contract.
I'm not talking Lebron holding out in regards to his contract. I'm talking about waiting for all this hoopla to begin when he obviously knew where he was going way before the free agency date. Why all the sensationalism and waste all the other NBA teams hunting him their money and time? Sickening.
As to Bosh, Wade and Lebron talking, we've known that since the Olympics. No shock to anyone who actually follows the game. I doubt there is a real NBA fan outside of the state of Ohio who thought Lebron was going anywhere but South Florida.
Really?? I have been following this Lebron fiasco since the playoffs and never really knew where he was going. It was only when Bosh joined Wade in Miami that things started to click. A lot of sports experts in the field had no idea either if you were following the sport channels and getting expert predictions.
Dude, let me tell you about sports radio: suspense pays the bills. They kept the story alive to sell ads, period. If you followed Bosh's and Dwade's tweets for the last couple of years, you saw this coming.
OK, I'm sorry, I should have thrown in a "seriously" before "follows the game". Casual fans just know what the talking heads on ESPN and the morning drive time show say. My bad.
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I'm happy for Lebron going to Miami, there's going to be some interesting seasons coming up. Lebron gave his best during his time with Cleveland, heck he started with them when he went pro and that should be enough of his loyalty to his home state. I'm wondering though about Miami's secondaries, if any of the big three are badly injured, are they up to filling in the spot?
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Wow. You must really hate Cleveland. Did it eat your puppy when you were a kid or something? Care to kick my home town some more? Please? We really need someone to pile on, as we don't have it bad enough these days...
BTW, many of your comments are incorrect (Flats, ethnicity, etc.), but I don't want to get into a flame war over it. Let's just agree to disagree.
Wait, y'all didn't turn the Flats into a restaurant/club/destination type place? Could have sworn y'all did last time I was in Cleveland...
No offense, but @50k people of non black or white heritage in a city as large as Cleveland (and most of them are Hispanic) does not make Cleveland "ethnically diverse". 88% of your population falls into two ethnic groups.
And, I really wasn't trying to "pile on". You painted a rosy picture of your town, one that doesn't reflect an economic or cultural reality that is causing Cleveland to die a slow death. In ten years, Cleveland is going to be Detroit if the leadership of the place doesn't stop creating an environment hostile to business.
That's just the state of the place, a.k.a. reality.
The Flats no longer exist. The developers have moved the destination place a couple blocks west. Right now, the Flats are in limbo until another developer decides what to do with them and the city approves their plan.
As for ethnicity, there is more to ethnicity than black/white/skin color. I'm talking about Italian, Polish, Slovak, Irish, Croatian, etc. Cleveland has entire neighborhoods filled with different ethnic backgrounds, and a plethora of festivals filled with good food, and good fun. I work with a couple folks who used to live in New York City and they were pleasantly surprised that much of the "neighborhood" feel they had in NYC was present here in Cleveland as well.
As opposed to being a visitor such as yourself, I live here, and I can tell you that things are not as bleak as you seem to believe them to be. No, it's not perfect, but it's more "rosy" than than not. Cleveland's image as "The Mistake on the Lake" is definitely not deserved. Come visit sometime for a long weekend. I'll show you around and prove it to you.
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Wow. You must really hate Cleveland. Did it eat your puppy when you were a kid or something? Care to kick my home town some more? Please? We really need someone to pile on, as we don't have it bad enough these days...
BTW, many of your comments are incorrect (Flats, ethnicity, etc.), but I don't want to get into a flame war over it. Let's just agree to disagree.
Wait, y'all didn't turn the Flats into a restaurant/club/destination type place? Could have sworn y'all did last time I was in Cleveland...
No offense, but @50k people of non black or white heritage in a city as large as Cleveland (and most of them are Hispanic) does not make Cleveland "ethnically diverse". 88% of your population falls into two ethnic groups.
And, I really wasn't trying to "pile on". You painted a rosy picture of your town, one that doesn't reflect an economic or cultural reality that is causing Cleveland to die a slow death. In ten years, Cleveland is going to be Detroit if the leadership of the place doesn't stop creating an environment hostile to business.
That's just the state of the place, a.k.a. reality.
The Flats no longer exist. The developers have moved the destination place a couple blocks west. Right now, the Flats are in limbo until another developer decides what to do with them and the city approves their plan.
As for ethnicity, there is more to ethnicity than black/white/skin color. I'm talking about Italian, Polish, Slovak, Irish, Croatian, etc. Cleveland has entire neighborhoods filled with different ethnic backgrounds, and a plethora of festivals filled with good food, and good fun. I work with a couple folks who used to live in New York City and they were pleasantly surprised that much of the "neighborhood" feel they had in NYC was present here in Cleveland as well.
As opposed to being a visitor such as yourself, I live here, and I can tell you that things are not as bleak as you seem to believe them to be. No, it's not...
I'll take you up on that when I can freely travel. Gives Cleveland 22 more months to shape up and impress me. Last time I was there was in '99, and I wasn't impressed.
But, people are still leaving Cleveland in droves. That needs to be corrected lest all of that you claim change.
I hope your friends weren't from Manhattan saying that. The place is Disney World now. About as diverse as a mall in the suburbs anymore. The Boroughs, as long as you're not in Williamsburg, are still like that, but not the core, not anymore. Giuliani screwed that up.
