Are the -5's for secondary natural attacks already figured in on the monster stat blocks in the Bestiary? I find this confusing, the core book states
Some natural attacks are denoted as secondary natural
attacks, such as tails and wings. Attacks with secondary
natural attacks are made using your base attack bonus
minus 5. These attacks deal an amount of damage
depending on their type, but you only add half your
Strength modifier on damage rolls.
I have never seen anything in the Bestiary that denotes secondary attack, but I have seen some attacks for some creatures that look like the -5 is baked in.
The 'denotation' as a secondary attack is on a chart at the back of the Bestiary, and (barring an error) are already factored into the attacks listed. That can be modified by the Multi-attack feat of course (to a -2 penalty).
Are the -5's for secondary natural attacks already figured in on the monster stat blocks in the Bestiary? I find this confusing, the core book states
Some natural attacks are denoted as secondary natural
attacks, such as tails and wings. Attacks with secondary
natural attacks are made using your base attack bonus
minus 5. These attacks deal an amount of damage
depending on their type, but you only add half your
Strength modifier on damage rolls.I have never seen anything in the Bestiary that denotes secondary attack, but I have seen some attacks for some creatures that look like the -5 is baked in.
The -5 is already included for the bestiary stats.
Ah, I see the chart now, thank you for the quick responses
Also note that some creature deliberately break these guidelines (Glabrezu with your primary pincers I am looking at you).