Cylon Clone Number 13 has apparently been found guilty of abusing her Authority...
Your article fails to mention that the nearly 300-page report does not recommend sanctions or a criminal investigation. In other words, they felt they had to say something bad about her, but they can't prove anything so she's not going to be formally punished. This is all just to get back at her for going against the establishment.
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Your article fails to mention that the nearly 300-page report does not recommend sanctions or a criminal investigation. In other words, they felt they had to say something bad about her, but they can't prove anything so she's not going to be formally punished. This is all just to get back at her for going against the establishment.Cylon Clone Number 13 has apparently been found guilty of abusing her Authority...
Breaches of ethics rules aren't usually criminal offences.
Within her rights, interesting.
Not acting is acting?
[quote=]"Governor Palin knowingly permitted a situation to continue where impermissible pressure was placed on several subordinates in order to advance a personal agenda, to wit: to get trooper Michael Wooten fired."
"She had the authority and power to require Mr Palin to cease contacting subordinates, but she failed to act."
but said his wife had later told him to back off[/b].So her husband abused his position as "first dude" and harassed some folks about the ex-brother-in-law. The Gov. told him to drop it. Very bad. Naughty, naughty.
Breaches of ethics rules aren't usually criminal offences.Doesn't the use of the word "guilty" then seem out of place? It does seem to carry with it a certain idea about one's criminal position.
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I've changed my reasoning slightly.
Palin ran an administration so utterly amateurish and incompetent that they discussed sacking Woolten in conversations to Monegan on state trooper phone lines, in public etc. They were just begging to be caught.
At least Nixon had the intelligence to keep his crimes quiet.
Palin ran an administration so utterly amateurish and incompetent that they discussed sacking Woolten in conversations to Monegan on state trooper phone lines, in public etc. They were just begging to be caught.
When the Guardian ran the headline "Palin cleared of wrongdoing by Palin," the presidential race officially ended.
Interesting little fact.
[quote=]On July 11, 2008, Palin's acting chief of staff Mike Nizich dismissed Monegan, offering him a position as executive director of the state Alcoholic Beverage Control Board, which he turned down.
"I do not interfere with the day-to-day operations of any department. Former Commissioner Monegan was not released due to any actions or inaction related to personnel issues in his department. We had hoped the former commissioner would have stayed in state service to help fight alcohol-related crime. We offered him the position of executive director of the Alcoholic Beverage Control board and, unfortunately, he turned it down."
Hardly seems like something you'd do if you were doing a grudge firing.
It should also be noted that even after Monegan was replaced, the ex-brother-in-law still had his job. Which also would seem strange if the reason for replacing Monegan was to get the ex-brother-in-law fired.
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Right. Cause removing the guy from a position of power and offering him some dead end job isn't indicative of 'grudge related' firing. And of course Wooton still has his job. He can't be fired by the Palin administration, can he? Only the Public Safety Commissioner can get rid of a state trooper, and Monegan's refusal to fire Wooton is what led to this.
In other news, the Alaska Legislature still found Palin guilty of abuse of power.
Only the Public Safety Commissioner can get rid of a state trooper, and Monegan's refusal to fire Wooton is what led to this.
And once he was fired and a new person was in that position that Palin appointed? Right, he still wasn't fired.
In other news, the Alaska Legislature still found Palin guilty of abuse of power.
And also found the firing "was a proper and lawful exercise of her constitutional and statutory authority to hire and fire executive branch department heads." Also the Legislature has no actual authority on this issue, what they have issued is an opinion. Opinions are not evidence in a lawful sense.
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You are aware of how things work, right? If Wooton had been fired after all that, he'd currently be suing Alaska and Palin for wrongful dismissal, or some derivative of that law, and most probably winning.
Ah well. I suppose you want your elected officials to abuse their power in pursuing personal grudges?
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Bottom line is that Palin is dirtier than Jenna Jamison on crack.
What is that biblical line about 'let he who is without sin cast the first stone'?
Since the McCain hate machine has been using the 'sinless' Palin as the hammer to 'prove' how politically 'unethical' Obama is (which is utter BS btw, this Republican hate campaign is disgusting and unamerican, even McCain is getting uncomfortable with the lies and hate they've been stirring up); her credibility is done. She is just like all the other 'old-school' politician, and that undermines her role in his campaign.
And I totally agree with Selinker above; how can you take McCain-Palin seriously when they are trying to write their own legal decisions?
Anyone that still wants McCain/Palin in the White House has got a serious case of denial. You may not like Obama, but your racehorse just took a dump in the winner's circle. Maybe you should vote for Barr or write in Romney?
And anyone that is using race as a reason not to vote for Obama is just subhuman. And I stand by that. Racism is still alive in the United States and that is depressing. Time for those people to get over it, or get the hell out of my America.
Anyone that still wants McCain/Palin in the White House has got a serious case of denial.
Your outstanding logic is too powerful to resist. Please pass the kool-aid over. Hmm, so good.
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Anyone that still wants McCain/Palin in the White House has got a serious case of denial.Your outstanding logic is too powerful to resist. Please pass the kool-aid over. Hmm, so good.
Hey if you want Mr. Erratic and Ms. Smarmy in the White House over an intelligent ticket that actually has a plan; well what can you say? Enjoy your Kool Aid!
Have you been watching the debates? McCain looks like a zombie, can only repeat "my friends" like a broken tape recorder, and changes his plans and rhetoric every 5 minutes. Palin just winked a lot and just made up her own questions to answer and was gleeful about it. When the topic got too uncomfortable for her, she just changed the subject to energy.
Hey, maybe you really don't like Obama's ideas; don't vote for him. But McCain/Palin is looking like a trainwreck on the verge of happening; you seem intelligent enough. Maybe you should seek a third option?
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Anyone that still wants McCain/Palin in the White House has got a serious case of denial.Your outstanding logic is too powerful to resist. Please pass the kool-aid over. Hmm, so good.Hey if you want Mr. Erratic and Ms. Smarmy in the White House over an intelligent ticket that actually has a plan; well what can you say? Enjoy your Kool Aid!
Have you been watching the debates? McCain looks like a zombie, can only repeat "my friends" like a broken tape recorder, and changes his plans and rhetoric every 5 minutes. Palin just winked a lot and just made up her own questions to answer and was gleeful about it. When the topic got too uncomfortable for her, she just changed the subject to energy.
Hey, maybe you really don't like Obama's ideas; don't vote for him. But McCain/Palin is looking like a trainwreck on the verge of happening; you seem intelligent enough. Maybe you should seek a third option?
Option three is a NOGO area. I cant run for President of the USA, Heathsson wouldnt like a foreigner giving Texas all the Water Resources to reforest.
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Option three is a NOGO area. I cant run for President of the USA, Heathsson wouldnt like a foreigner giving Texas all the Water Resources to reforest.Anyone that still wants McCain/Palin in the White House has got a serious case of denial.Your outstanding logic is too powerful to resist. Please pass the kool-aid over. Hmm, so good.Hey if you want Mr. Erratic and Ms. Smarmy in the White House over an intelligent ticket that actually has a plan; well what can you say? Enjoy your Kool Aid!
Have you been watching the debates? McCain looks like a zombie, can only repeat "my friends" like a broken tape recorder, and changes his plans and rhetoric every 5 minutes. Palin just winked a lot and just made up her own questions to answer and was gleeful about it. When the topic got too uncomfortable for her, she just changed the subject to energy.
Hey, maybe you really don't like Obama's ideas; don't vote for him. But McCain/Palin is looking like a trainwreck on the verge of happening; you seem intelligent enough. Maybe you should seek a third option?
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Hey if you want Mr. Erratic and Ms. Smarmy in the White House over an intelligent ticket that actually has a plan; well what can you say? Enjoy your Kool Aid!
Right, I know. You've totally convinced me with your flawless logic. This kool-aid your giving is awesome. Is this Wild-Barry or Hawaiian Punch?
Hey if you want Mr. Erratic and Ms. Smarmy in the White House over an intelligent ticket that actually has a plan; well what can you say? Enjoy your Kool Aid!Right, I know. You've totally convinced me with your flawless logic. This kool-aid your giving is awesome. Is this Wild-Barry or Hawaiian Punch?
The Cult of Obama does make the best kool-aid. That's for sure.
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The key thing to remember is that when the New York Times first reported on this the Democrat that was appointed to investigate the matter said "Of course our investigation is not finished but it is becoming clear that there is nothing there." Then Sarah Palin became John McCain's vice-presidential pick and then we get this report from the same Democrat has now decided that this is the new Watergate. Just consider the source.
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The Cult of Obama does make the best kool-aid. That's for sure.Hey if you want Mr. Erratic and Ms. Smarmy in the White House over an intelligent ticket that actually has a plan; well what can you say? Enjoy your Kool Aid!Right, I know. You've totally convinced me with your flawless logic. This kool-aid your giving is awesome. Is this Wild-Barry or Hawaiian Punch?
With respect, I think you & pres have simply been drinking cool-aid of the republican variety. A bi-partisan commission found an ethics violation occurred in the manner that Gov Plain allowed her husband access to official email and staff in an effort to pressure the trooper into being fired.
To completely dismiss the charge because "they're trying to get back at her for taking on the man in Alaska" sounds a heck of a lot like a cool-aid line to me.
I am not saying that some (read: most) of the anti-palin glee shown above is not over the top partisan crap, but I would suggest looking to your own dismissive, condescending "cool aid" responses before you paint anyone who disagrees with you as hopelessly deluded by the "cult of obama".
I would like to close by mumbling something about glass houses and stones.
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The key thing to remember is that when the New York Times first reported on this the Democrat that was appointed to investigate the matter said "Of course our investigation is not finished but it is becoming clear that there is nothing there." Then Sarah Palin became John McCain's vice-presidential pick and then we get this report from the same Democrat has now decided that this is the new Watergate. Just consider the source.
source this, please. I was following Palin as a potential VP since the republican primaries. I have not once seen reference to this fact. And for the point of full disclosure, I read almost all of my news via AP and reuters specifically to avoid the bias of cable news sources like CNN and fox. Still, I have seen no reference to this allegation.
The Cult of Obama does make the best kool-aid. That's for sure.Hey if you want Mr. Erratic and Ms. Smarmy in the White House over an intelligent ticket that actually has a plan; well what can you say? Enjoy your Kool Aid!Right, I know. You've totally convinced me with your flawless logic. This kool-aid your giving is awesome. Is this Wild-Barry or Hawaiian Punch?With respect, I think you & pres have simply been drinking cool-aid of the republican variety. A bi-partisan commision found an ethics violation occurred in the manner that Gov Plain allowed her husband access to offical emial and staff in an effort to pressure the trooper into being fired.
To completely dismiss the charge because "they're trying to get back at her for taking on the man in Alaska" sounds a heck of a lot like a cool-aid line to me.
I am not saying that some (read: most) of the anti-palin glee shown above is not over the top partisan crap, but I would suggest looking to your own dismissive, condescending "cool aid" responses before you paint anyone who disagrees with you as hopefully deluded by the "cult of obama".
I would like to close by mumbling something about glass houses and stones.
Find one spot where I criticized the bi-partisan commission or their decision. I didn't even mention it. I was responding to the piling on of Palin by the Obama supporters and they themselves are overlooking their candidate who isn't exactly spotless.
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The key thing to remember is that when the New York Times first reported on this the Democrat that was appointed to investigate the matter said "Of course our investigation is not finished but it is becoming clear that there is nothing there." Then Sarah Palin became John McCain's vice-presidential pick and then we get this report from the same Democrat has now decided that this is the new Watergate. Just consider the source.source this, please. I was following Palin as a potential VP since the republican primaries. I have not once seen reference to this fact. And for the point of full disclosure, I read almost all of my news via AP and reuters specifically to avoid the bias of cable news sources like CNN and fox. Still, I have seen no reference to this allegation.
I tried to find the report for you, but the New York Times has parred their archives on Sarah Palin and this story down to just 16 articles, most of which are from blogs. The news search program I am currently using turned up 3500 articles on the subject, but only allowed me access to the first thousand, and the majority of these were about the report being released. I did find this article interesting, especially the last part about how Democrats on the commitee joked about how this could become an "October Suprise."
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Hey, David...
check this out on Youtube. It's a threadjack, although it's about the economy, which is what Obama thinks we should be focusing on instead of the spurious dealings of the past.
It's kinda 8 minutes long, but it will blow your mind.
Oh, and Chucky, I allready know what you will say. It's all Bush's fault. I know, I know....
I am not saying that some (read: most) of the anti-palin glee shown above is not over the top partisan crap, but I would suggest looking to your own dismissive, condescending "cool aid" responses before you paint anyone who disagrees with you as hopelessly deluded by the "cult of obama".
Just to be clear, I was not the person who suggested that the only way one could disagree with my views would be to be in denial. So ...
*Wall burts in a large red guy shouting "Ooooo-Bama!"*
All right more Wild-Barry!
Hey, David...
check this out on Youtube. It's a threadjack, although it's about the economy, which is what Obama thinks we should be focusing on instead of the spurious dealings of the past.
It's kinda 8 minutes long, but it will blow your mind.Oh, and Chucky, I allready know what you will say. It's all Bush's fault. I know, I know....
Good find Heathy. I wonder what the chances are of the things that went on in this video being discussed by the evening news shows? Zilch.
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I know. Bill has been so honest lately, I almost think he got a visit from the ghosts of elections past, present, and future.
Or, maybe he's mad at Obama for pwning his lady.
Oh, and my wife found it; she's actually conservative. My mom's a dem, my dad's a repub, so in essence I usually vote for whomever, IMHO, is the least clownlike. The one who won't hit the nuke button with a rubber chicken. My biggest problem with Palin is she says "noocyoolur."
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Huzzah! It seems that Sarah has now come of age (politically speaking). Congratulations Governor, you're now as bad as the rest of the candidates.
I recently saw an interview with Christopher Buckley (author of [/i]Thank You for Smoking[/i] and son of the great Willaim F. Buckley Jr.), in which he stated that he was unhappy with both candidates and wishes he could write in a name. His choice - George H.W. Bush (whom he worked for as a speech writer). I wish I could do that.
In the end, McCain still has my vote, mostly for two reasons:
1. I believe he'll be more military friendly, and since I work for the Navy, it would be in my best interest.
2. I think Obama leans a little to far into socialist ideaology at times.
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Good find Heathy. I wonder what the chances are of the things that went on in this video being discussed by the evening news shows? Zilch.Hey, David...
check this out on Youtube. It's a threadjack, although it's about the economy, which is what Obama thinks we should be focusing on instead of the spurious dealings of the past.
It's kinda 8 minutes long, but it will blow your mind.Oh, and Chucky, I allready know what you will say. It's all Bush's fault. I know, I know....
Yeah, that video was interesting. Here is an article by Stanley Kurtz about the group A.C.O.R.N.'s link to the whole Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac problem.
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Hey, David...
check this out on Youtube. It's a threadjack, although it's about the economy, which is what Obama thinks we should be focusing on instead of the spurious dealings of the past.
It's kinda 8 minutes long, but it will blow your mind.Oh, and Chucky, I allready know what you will say. It's all Bush's fault. I know, I know....
I wuv you too Heathy. Hey, I won't blame Bush. History has shown what a great President that he has been, and also the most popular....oops, I was referring to FDR. Sorry. Hey, I lived in Texas for years when he was Governor. I knew that he couldn't govern his way out of a wet paper bag. Is that surprising that he sucks as a President?
Hey I stand by Obama. I wasn't surprised to see Garydee and Fryer make their way in here towing the Republican line. It's my job to balance out their rhetoric with the Liberal one. And it's a job I cherish. :)
Just explain to me what McCain's policies are going to be? They seem to change by the moment. And please tell me why you think it is okay to stir already unhinged people into dangerous levels of hate? Do you hear people at Obama rallies screaming for McCain's head? For McCain or Palin to be killed? To ask if McCain is a terrorist? Calling out McCain by his middle name of Sydney (SP?)?
Are you proud to belong to the party of hate? Because that says a lot about a person. It's one thing to be for fiscal responsibility, to be against abortion and for small government; it's another to support the hate mongering just to try and save your candidate's butt. I'd love to hear you, Gary and David decry this tactic by your candidates. That would make me feel better about you all as people. Can you do that? Can you take the TRUE high ground and criticize your candidates for the vitriol? It's getting dangerous out there, and there really should be rules and laws against that kind of tactics.
Set this bleeding heart's mind at rest.
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I wuv you too Heathy. Hey, I won't blame Bush. History has shown what a great President that he has been, and also the most popular....oops, I was referring to FDR. Sorry. Hey, I lived in Texas for years when he was Governor. I knew that he couldn't govern his way out of a wet paper bag. Is that surprising that he sucks as a President?
So, what was Bush supposed to do, if anything, against a Liberal majority in congress to fix Fannie and Freddie? I wish the Lib's would start taking a little culpability for the problem, instead of invoking the "it's Bush's fault" mantra over and over again.
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Hey I stand by Obama. I wasn't surprised to see Garydee and Fryer make their way in here towing the Republican line. It's my job to balance out their rhetoric with the Liberal one.
I don't toe the repub line. I voted for Kerry in 04.
I wish the lines would disappear frankly. They're counterproductive.
It looks like not even the forums can resist talking about the election. Allow my associate to make everything much clearer.
I diswike Obama and Pawin and McCain and Bidon and evweone.
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And please tell me why you think it is okay to stir already unhinged people into dangerous levels of hate? Do you hear people at Obama rallies screaming for McCain's head? For McCain or Palin to be killed? To ask if McCain is a terrorist? Calling out McCain by his middle name of Sydney (SP?)?
I've never been to an Obama rally, so I wouldn't know what goes on there. I'm sure 95% of them at least aren't crackpots.
This statement is just too alarmist to take seriously. I thought the repub's were the fear mongerers.
My biggest problem with Palin is she says "noocyoolur."
My wife has a problem with that as well. She also noticed that Palin said it both ways during the debate. It isn't nearly as a big issue for me, as I accept that there are different dialects of speech in different areas and some of them are kind of silly. I mean listen to Kerry sometime, I didn't realize that it was "idear" and not "idea".
What ever would give you that idea? Or is that idear?
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Are you proud to belong to the party of hate? Because that says a lot about a person. It's one thing to be for fiscal responsibility, to be against abortion and for small government; it's another to support the hate mongering just to try and save your candidate's butt. I'd love to hear you, Gary and David decry this tactic by your candidates. That would make me feel better about you all as people. Can you do that? Can you take the TRUE high ground and criticize your candidates for the vitriol? It's getting dangerous out there, and there really should be rules and laws against that kind of tactics.Set this bleeding heart's...
I don't belong to any party, so I don't know what my endorsement would even mean. I think, again, this whole statement reeks of emotional fearmongering so I don't even know where to begin to respond to it.
The first thing my mom said when Palin was announced was "OMG--she'll have her finger on the bomb button." I've heard that about Reagan too, from my democratic grandparents. Wow, we're still here.
Oh, yeah; the same democratic grandparents who became so despondent after Clinton's tenure that they stopped paying attention to any of it.
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I've never been to an Obama rally, so I wouldn't know what goes on there. I'm sure 95% of them at least aren't crackpots.
Naah, the ones who are crackpots are people like Sandra Bernhard, who warned Palin "not to come into Manhattan lest she get gang-raped by some of Sandra’s big black brothers". Charming. At least we know that the hate is present on both sides.
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Oh, yeah, Chucky--this is fun to me, so don't take none of it personal-like and I won't.
It's half the reason why I called you out in the first place.
Oh I'm laughing my ass off dude. I really do like you, always have. We don't usually agree about much, but you aren't mean spirited.
But I am alarmed by what has been happening at the Palin/McCain rallies recently. They are saying stuff that gets the crowds angrier and angrier. Yesterday, McCain finally had to tamp it down and got booed for it. This was the first sign of the 2000 John McCain that I've seen in the last two years or so. I salute the guy for it, but still want Obama in the Oval Office. And the answer is no, the Dems don't usually resort to these kinds of tactics.
Now I'd take Tina Fey for VP; she's very intelligent and hot!
Rock on dude!
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Are you proud to belong to the party of hate?
Hate?
Like wishing that the vp candidate would be gang raped?
That sort of hate?
Some of us are a bit leery of Obama (to put it mildly) but nobody I knows wants him dead. We have called into question his choice of allies and associates but I doubt Obama himself would participate in terrorism.
May I ask who you heard calling for Obama to be killed at a McCain rally because I don't really believe it happened. I suspect you are exagerating anger into hate and they are not the same thing.
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I've never been to an Obama rally, so I wouldn't know what goes on there. I'm sure 95% of them at least aren't crackpots.Naah, the ones who are crackpots are people like Sandra Bernhard, who warned Palin "not to come into Manhattan lest she get gang-raped by some of Sandra’s big black brothers". Charming. At least we know that the hate is present on both sides.
Honestly, she's such a dipwad I don't even take her seriously. Sandra, open your yap some more and prove me even more righter.
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Are you proud to belong to the party of hate?Hate?
Like wishing that the vp candidate would be gang raped?
That sort of hate?
Some of us are a bit leery of Obama (to put it mildly) but nobody I knows wants him dead. We have called into question his choice of allies and associates but I doubt Obama himself would participate in terrorism.
May I ask who you heard calling for Obama to be killed at a McCain rally because I don't really believe it happened. I suspect you are exagerating anger into hate and they are not the same thing.
If I was at a McCain rally, and I heard it, I'd tell them to STFU. Unless there was more than 40 of them, then I'd probably just leave, and go tattle on them on the interweb. I could take a mob of 39 hatemongerers, man. They're only a 8 C.R. threat.
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Oh, yeah, Chucky--this is fun to me, so don't take none of it personal-like and I won't.
It's half the reason why I called you out in the first place.Oh I'm laughing my ass off dude. I really do like you, always have. We don't usually agree about much, but you aren't mean spirited.
But I am alarmed by what has been happening at the Palin/McCain rallies recently. They are saying stuff that gets the crowds angrier and angrier. Yesterday, McCain finally had to tamp it down and got booed for it. This was the first sign of the 2000 John McCain that I've seen in the last two years or so. I salute the guy for it, but still want Obama in the Oval Office. And the answer is no, the Dems don't usually resort to these kinds of tactics.
Now I'd take Tina Fey for VP; she's very intelligent and hot!
Rock on dude!
Right on.
I live in Texas, so I argle-bargle with Con's and Lib's all day.The Con's think I'm a pinko, and the Lib's think I'm a Jackboot Goosestepper. I don't care. I'm a moderate.
Like McCain.