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Consider an Alchemist2+/Magus2+ with the Vestigial Arm discovery.

the simple question: Can a 3-armed/handed Magus wield a 2-handed weapon in two of his
hands while Spell Combating with the 3rd Free hand?

RAW, the answer would be "No", Spell Combat specifically says:
"This functions much like two-weapon fighting, but the off-hand weapon is a spell that is
being cast. To use this ability, the magus must have one hand free (even if the spell being
cast does not have somatic components), while wielding a light or one-handed melee
weapon in the other hand. As a full-round action, he can make all of his attacks with his
melee weapon at a –2 penalty and can also cast any spell from the magus spell list with a
casting time of 1 standard action (any attack roll made as part of this spell also takes this
penalty)."

Which seems kinda silly, since you have a spare vestigial hand hanging out doing nothing.

But given that, what about the Bastard Sword, which can be used either 2-handed or
1-handed?

AFTER you initiate Spell Combat, you could shift grip of the OTHER free hand to wield two
handed THEN deliver your attacks. Which seems to be perfectly possible with Two-Weapon
Fighting, 3 Hands and the Vestigial Arms limit on extra attacks. You'd still only have 2
attacks and Spell Combat + Spellstrike is supposed to work like TWF.

This interpretation also limits me to not using a Large Sized Bastard Sword to start
Spell Combat with as well (since then I'd be using a 2-hands required weapon).

So, now the "REAL, niggling" question:

The one grey-area still is whether the combined Spell Combat + Spellstrike Magus Action
can be used with the grip change so the extra spell-delivery attack is also 2-other-handed
or not.

I.e: Can I: Cast, shift grip, deliver spell via weapon attack, normal iterative attacks to use
all two-handed strikes or does it go Cast+deliver-1-handed, shift grip, normal 2-handed
iteratives?

Normally, I'm not this rules lawyer-y, but having an official ruling to point to should
help speed up Pathfinder Society events I've been attending recently.