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Hmmmm.... All i could think of is:
Male human fighter (warrior) - uses Broadaxe
Male human wizard - constantly using magic missile
Female human fighter (valkyrie)
Male elf ranger (archer)

And one or more of them constantly "Needs food....badly!"


I'd say, for me it's a tie between the Catfolk and the Gillmen. Catfolk mainly because "Thundercats" was probably my favorite afterschool cartoon, and the Gillmen because I really like Aquaman and Namor, plus (I can't believe I'm actually admitting this), I really liked "Waterworld".

I might give a slight edge to the Gillmen in the preferences (even though I think they were the only race in the book that got zilch in the way of racial feats) because the Eldritch Raider just seems like a really interesting concept to me. Kinda like "Aquaman meets Indiana Jones, with magic!"


True. We know they were there to redeem Venger NOW, because we've either read the script for the last episode online, or with the DVD set. But that teensy little point was never EVER made in any episodes that were aired.

IIRC, Dungeon Master only called Venger "son" in one episode. And if some kid back in the day happened to miss that particular episode, he/she might never know about it. And, I don't recall a single instance of Dungeon Master ever even hinting that helping redeem Venger was a prerequisite for them returning home. Well, maaaaaaaaaybe, if you want to stretch for it and say that his line about "your greatest enemy can be your strongest ally" (or something similar) in the "Valley of the Unicorns" episode could have been meant to get them thinking along those lines. But that was pretty much the only instance I could think of that would even come close.

I'm certainly not trying to put words in your mouth, so please don't take it that way, but you can't really say something along the lines of "C'mon everyone, we all knew the real reason they were there and what they had to do to go home" when we DIDN'T know that. At least not at the time the show was originally aired, and even moreso considering that them finding out about Venger was never aired in the first place and people had to either find the script for it online or wait for the DVD set.

However, I will definitely, absolutely, wholeheartedly agree with you that the D&D cartoon is better than Spongebob, Gumball and (most of all, IMHO) Regular Show.


These are a few of the movies that kind of inspire me, or would...IF I was able to game. Oh well, here goes:

Conan the Barbarian (1981/2011 versions)
The Beastmaster
Hellboy/Hellboy 2
Immortals
The Princess Bride
300
Hawk the Slayer
The Archer and the Sorceress (aka The Archer:Fugitive from the Empire)
Wanted
Waterworld
Ninja Scroll
Shoot 'Em Up
Pitch Black
Pan's Labyrinth
The Dark Crystal
Highlander
Raiders of the Lost Ark (or any of the "Indiana Jones" movies. Maybe not "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" though, hehe)
The Sword and the Sorcerer


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What? You mean you DON'T like that award worthy dialogue? What about this stellar bit from the first episode?

Diana: "But he looked like Merlin, standing there stroking his white rabbit."

Hank: "Not his rabbit, his hare."

Diana & Hank: "His white hare!!"

Diana: "Dungeon Master said we'd know Venger by his white hare. We thought he meant hair, like on his head." *points to head

How could anyone NOT think that's some high quality... Yeah, I'm sorry. I tried to keep a straight face through that, but there's just no way.


Whew! Glad to know it's all cool. And, as for the animation not standing the test of time (or "painful to watch" as you put it), I definitely agree! Especially compared to the quality of some of the current animated shows. It might be cool if someone remade the show, like they did with "Thundercats" (not that it would HAVE to have an "anime-ish" look to it). Of course, what would probably happen THEN would be that Cartoon Network would pick it up, run it for one season, let it get really popular, and then yank & cancel it abruptly. Or they'd just move the timeslot around so much noone would know when it was on, never advertise or promote the show at all, and THEN cancel because "noone was watching it". That didn't sound TOO bitter, did it?


The Narnia kids? Well, just off the top of my head (and, I admit I've only seen the first 2 movies and haven't read any of the books), weren't they able to go back & forth between Narnia and the "real world", more or less when they wanted? I vaguely remember them travelling through the wardrobe a few times in the first movie. And while they did do a hefty bit of fighting, they had quite a few allies. The D&D kids, they were brought to "the realm" completely against their will and were trapped there. I guess I look at like the difference between going camping with your family & friends, and being kidnapped, stuffed in the trunk of a car and hauled out to a cabin in the woods. Both take place in the outdoors, but one might be slightly more traumatic than the other (depending on your friends & family). And, since I'm still way new here and don't want to start things off by getting into an arguement, I'm just gonna be quiet now.


One thing about the show that kind of caught me off guard was when I found out how old (or more accurately, how young) the main characters were. When I saw the show as a kid, I just assumed that, with the obvious exception of Bobby, they were all probably juniors or seniors in high school at least. Then I read on the Wikipedia article that they were all between the ages of 8-15. And apparently, Hank was the only one that was 15 with the rest being 14 and Bobby being 8. YIKES!! If those kids ever made it back home (heck, even the unaired final episode didn't clear THAT up), you know they're going to be in need of a hefty amount of therapy.


Velcro Zipper wrote:
chubhound wrote:
Though, to be honest, the only reason I played rangers after seeing the show was because I wanted that cool bow for my character.
Hank's bow was my least favorite weapon, and it made Hank my least favorite character. The bow was sort of like Superman. It's powers were so ill-defined, they could use it to fix anything. Uni's falling into a bottomless pit? Hank's arrows turn into a Spider-Man webline. Gigantic iron golem stomping toward the party? Don't worry. Hank's arrows can wrap around its legs to entangle its ankles. Bobby fell off a dragon? No sweat. Hank's arrows work just like broomsticks of flying so Bobby can just ride one to the ground. It was boring. If anyone's item should have had the power of deus ex machina, it was Presto. Kid had a freakin' wizard hat.

That's very true. Hank's bow was, more or less, Green Lantern's power ring. So, with that in mind, I felt like I should clarify my original statement. I wasn't interested in having a weapon that could do anything and everything. I just thought a magic bow that shot...what the heck were those arrows made of anyway? Lightning? Fire? Gummi Bears? Anyway, I just thought it was a kick butt weapon aesthetically (I was only 10 at the time, so as long as it "looked cool" that's all I cared about). And, when my DM finally DID let one of my characters use one, it most certainly did NOT do everything under the sun like the show's did. And that was cool with me, I had an awesome looking bow that shot..whatever it shot, and I didn't need to worry about lugging around a quiver full of arrows.


I always thought Uni was incredibly annoying. Annoying on a level of "drop that thing face-first into a wood chipper". Didn't that dumb thing cost them at least one way back home just because Bobby couldn't bear to lose his "pet"? In any case, I always liked the show. It was the main reason every D&D character I played as a kid was a ranger (at least until my parents forced me to stop because they thought the game would turn me into a devil worshipping serial killer). Though, to be honest, the only reason I played rangers after seeing the show was because I wanted that cool bow for my character.